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Old Dec 31, 2001 | 11:39 AM
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Yes, you can actually "Light Agriculture" work with Utility ATV's. I'm not sure that I would use a snowblade to push the gravel, unless you are careful, and buy replacement edges for the bottom. You're call, I think my father uses his snowblade once in awhile to level gravel on a driveway, but he has tons of spare replacement edges.
 
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Old Jan 1, 2002 | 10:41 AM
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hey choochoo If you want to move some gravel check out this web site www.beaverpro.com I have never seen them other than the adds maybe one of the mags will test drive them for us
 
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Old Jan 1, 2002 | 02:06 PM
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can u still lock the front end on the 02 model ac300 or do they have a diff front diff now?
 
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Old Jan 1, 2002 | 11:05 PM
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Bill, you miss read my post. I was talking about plowing snow and not having chains or running hot while plowing. I never said, my quad has never run hot. That was very big of you to point that out as you are "the king of quadville". Speaking of juice, Bill, have you been to Lansing lately? (Oh, I'm just teasing.)
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Old Jan 2, 2002 | 12:09 AM
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Last time I was in Lansing was Nov 7th 2001 at an ORV Board meeting.I'll be going again this Jan 9th to Lansing for the same reason,to fight for OUR ATV priviledges.And im sorry,but the way I read your post sounded as though you were making a claim that your KQ has never overheated and can really soak up the whoops[this quad jumps whoops better than most].I know better,I owned one!If thats how you feel about the KQ,maybe I should of just kept my mouth shut?I certainly will next time!

I wonder what you'd of said if you seen a post of mine that read,

My Polaris is the most reliable ATV there is and is never in the shop for repairs?

Hum??

Yours Truly,
''King of Quadville''

 
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Old Jan 2, 2002 | 08:45 PM
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Thanks for the info "Rides4fun" and "Dusty Diesel". I think BeaverPro just might have what I'm looking for and the best part is they are less than 30 minutes up the road. I'm going to head over there soon and see what they look like in person and more importantly what their price tag is.

Again, thanks!
 
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Old Jan 3, 2002 | 12:55 AM
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Well, I've read all of the biased Artic Cat opinions, so now I'll add my biased Suzuki opinion just for a little balance. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]

As you can see from my signature, I'm a King Quad fan. I love mine and have ridden it pretty hard over some very rough trails. It does have independent suspension, front and rear, and it's lighter than the 300 Cat. It powerslides very easily in 2WD. It's simple to maintain, highly reliable, and very rugged. Most of what I ride is rocky, off-camber, rutted trails high in the Rocky Mts. at elevations above 7000 ft. and at speeds between 10-20 mph. The King is at home in this type of environment.

Someone said the 300 Cat had a higher compression ratio? How can that be if Suzuki provides the same motor for the 300 Cat as it does for the KQ? Granted, the carburetor (is it different? Mikuni BSR29SS in the 2000 King) and exhaust are different and you will see performance differences due to these components, but I'm having a hard time understanding how the compression ratio is different if the motor is the same?

My only gripe with Cats is that they are heavy. And I agree that the KQ is very strong torque-wise. I'd like to know how Artic Cat has geared the 300 compared to the King. I'd bet the difference in gearing (if any) has something to do with the acceleration/top speed differences.

I do wish the KQ had more suspension travel like the Cat, but that's all. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img] You can buy aftermarket shocks for the KQ that do increase the suspension travel. The seat on my KQ is cushy and the adjustable shocks set to the softest settings are great. I can and have ridden all day without getting a sore butt or back. It gets great gas mileage even at elevations > 7000 ft. ( where I do most of my riding ).

You have to give Suzuki some credit for the Cat's high reliability, they make the motors for most Cats. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]

One observation I've made in both the Artic Cat and Suzuki forums is that very few riders complain of failures, and both groups are very loyal to their brand. That speaks well of the quality of the machines. 'Nuff said. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]

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Old Jan 3, 2002 | 01:01 AM
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Rides4Fun,

About the only way I could explain your feeling of the King Quad being quicker would be to say that it has to do with the suspension and size of the ATV actually Decieving you. When you are closer to the ground, things seem faster, and it goes the same way with suspesnion. A smoother riding vehicle will always feel like its going slower than a vehicle that doesn't ride as good when comparing them back to back (not side by side). If you think this is bs, try doing 55 mph in a go-cart then doing it in your Caravan. Which do you think is gonna "feel" faster?

As for the locking front differentials, it no longer exist on the 250 and 300 models for 2002. Only the 2001 and older models have this. I will have to wait to find out if the 2003 models will have it, but I have been hearing rumors (along with others) that it will probaly be standard on the 2003 500i, or the Rumored 650i.
 
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Old Jan 3, 2002 | 01:06 AM
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markdf,

Suzuki may make the motors for Arctic Cat, but that does not mean that they are the same. Before 2002, Most if not all Suzuki's had an 8.5:1 compression ratio while the standard in Arctic Cat was 9:1.

As for the gearing, they are identical from what I can tell, but I don't have a Suzuki service manual to confirm this.
 
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Old Jan 3, 2002 | 01:17 AM
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Boner,
I'd have to say that if the compression ratio is different, then the motor isn't the same. The piston, and/or combustion chamber must be different. Wouldn't you agree?

I just looked in my 2000 KQ Service Manual, the compression ratio is 9.2:1. Here are the gear ratios:
1st 3.083:1 (of course)
2nd 1.933
3rd 1.388
4th 1.095
5th 0.913 (this is actually an overdrive gear, not much power but good gas mileage)
Reverse 2.833

I'm the first to admit I'm not an expert on Artic Cats, but isn't the 300 an automatic? Do they make one that's an auto-cluth foot shift model? If so, I'd really like to know the gearing, only to satisfy my curiosity. These technical discussions interest me.

Thanks,
Mark
 
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