they can turn their 28.12.12 outlaws no problem or 28.12.12 vampires no problem do they mean just turning them? What I call turning tires is spinning them. Turning a big tire like that only in 1st gear is useless, unless you don't want to spin. I think turning a big tire is spinning it in at least 2nd gear with good wheel spin.

It really bugs me when people say they can turn a so and so tire with ease with a small cc quad. For example a Rancher turning 26.12.12 outlaws, I think that would be psycho !!! The poor rancher would be so bogged out and gutless. Even my 500i is bogged out somewhat with my 26.12.12 outlaws. With my 500i in 2nd gear you better prey the mud isn't that sticky or deep(past the tires) or your going to bog down and loose all your wheel spin in 2nd gear. Well this is the case in snow sometimes, I haven't tried it out in mud yet. Speaking of mud...

It also bugs me when people say they go through rack deep mud. I find that comical. Most of the time when people call that mud its actually very dirty water with a soft bottom. What I call mud, at the very least, usually consists of dirt mixed with water and the water is all soaked up for the most part. Now if I could go through rack deep mud, I would have the very best quad in the world !!! Hehe.

These are my questions to you guys:

What would you consider turning tires?
What do you think mud is?

 

well brent , I think I know where your coming from , mine want do it either , I cant use 2 gear at all , and I am dissappioned with the power , but if Id stayed with stock size tires I think id been happer , Ive had people tell me the same thing to , I was rack deep , yea right , thats over the seat , and air intake , something dont add up here , ive had mine in mud over the tires ,it was thick goo , and I was having a hard time even turning the 589m/s I had to use the winch to get out , my old 400 2001 , it would at least spin the tires 489s stock , Im happy with 400i , just not the power . wish id got a 500 i manaul to , maybe next time


chunky

 

For this exact reason we are talking about, I will trade up to the bigger CC motor when they release it. Until then I will have to use low range more.