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Old Jan 10, 2004 | 09:12 PM
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dose anybodey know what could be wrong with the carb or some thing on my atc ? when I stat it up it idols fine but when i shif it up into gear and give it some it just dies
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Old Jan 11, 2004 | 03:45 PM
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Could be lots of things...How old is the gas, if its older than 1 or 2 months, and didnt have stabil or other product in the gas, its probably no good.
Hows the oil level? Is it clean fresh oil?
If you lift the back wheels off the ground, will the motor turn them ?
Do you need to have it choked to keep it running?
It could be plugged up carb, idle mixture screw adjustment, or the clip postion on the needle jet. Could be clutch problem also.
 
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Old Jan 11, 2004 | 04:02 PM
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Hondabuster, it has no clutch new oil and gas since last week. Back wheels spin freely,Clean carb coulple months ago.Can't find air fuil mixture screw.
 
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Old Jan 11, 2004 | 06:14 PM
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I tried to find a picture of the carb, but no luck. It should be a brass screw, thats in a counterbore(doesnt stick up past the hole).
see if this site helps.
http://www.motocross.com/motoprof/mo...1/carb101.html
Gotta have a clutch, maybe not a manual one , but it should have an auto clutch. Sometimes a motor sits for so long...that the clutch plates stick together, and give symtoms like you had(dies when going into gear). I was trying to get a feel whether you had clutch or carb problems.
When you picked up the rear end and spun the tires...did it do it easily? No stumble or miss or hesitation? Then when you put it back on the ground.....same old crap? Then it sounds lean.
when you cleaned the carb...did it go ok? Everything went back together ok? was it dirty in the float bowl? Do you have an inline filter, or is it clean?It could be plugged again. The pilot jet has a very small diameter, and it doesnt take much of a piece of dirt or tank rust, to plug it.
 
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Old Jan 11, 2004 | 07:16 PM
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where i spun the tires it took a little bit like i t hesited but then it when and the same on the ground when i cleaned the carb it Everything went back together ok and it was dirty in the float bowl? i just put a filter on it because the gas looked dirty

how would i clean the pilot jet ? about how many turns do you think the air/fuel screw sould go in ? and where is the cluch and what sould i do if that is the problem?

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Old Jan 11, 2004 | 08:47 PM
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carb clean
see if these sites help, they show how to disassemble and clean and adjust a carb.You could try your local library for a repair manual on your trike. it surprising but the library will probably have one for your honda. and in there they usually have the specs on the carb.
Usually the pilot(or idle mixture) screw is turned in, lightly, until it bottoms out. Be delicate here, it can be disformed if you turn too hard. From there, come out 1 1/2 turns, to start.
The pilot jet can be tough to clean, because the hole is so small. One way to know if its clean, is to look thru it, if you dont see light thru the hole....its still plugged. This is a very common problem, and its usually caused by a rusty tank, or fine dirt getting in the float bowl, and then getting sucked up into the jet and becoming stuck.
The clutch is under the right side cover, and probably ok. Starting it up, and spinning the tires, lubed it up. Its a wet clutch that is imersed in oil.
Id start by trying to adjust the mixture screw, before taking it apart. Lightly screw it in, and count the turns, then go 1 1/2 out, and try that.
hope this helps.
 
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Old Jan 12, 2004 | 05:40 PM
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I cleaned the carb and jets they look realy clean to me but cleaned them any way when i put it back on the same old crap happened so now i do no think it is the carb ? do you know what it coud be

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Old Jan 12, 2004 | 06:16 PM
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Dirty air filter, plugged vent in gas cap.
I think yours has cdi, but if it has points, they could be out of adjustment or worn out.
You have the mixture screw turned out 1 1/2 turns?
Did you check the float level? Could the floats be full of fuel instead of air?
does it run better with the choke on or off?
hows the spark plug look? worn out or clean.
Let me know how it goes.
 
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Old Jan 12, 2004 | 07:02 PM
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some other things, fuel filter dirty/plugged, fuel line kinked, or colasped or restricted.
Valve adjustment?
Thats about all I can think of, any one else?
 
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