I dont know what happened to my original post, but I will re-write it.
I just bought an 82 or 83 Honda 200X from a guy off eBay. He started it up for me on the spot, so I went through with the transaction. About an hour later, I tried to start it and nothing. Pulled on it for 15 minutes at least. So...I get it home and discover there is no spark. The previous owner replaced the CDI pulsar unit, and I replaced the coil and plug and still nothing. I called a local Honda shop and he says theres a good chance its the generator. THe component thats by the flywheel. He says its a common item to fail when it gets wet. Now, when I picked up the trike, it was raining a little, but it still started up on the 2nd pull for the guy. On my ride home to S. GA from Kissimmee, it was raining like crazy! Do you think the generator could have gotten wet and caused it to fail? Also, does anyone have a pic of what the generator looks like? Is the generator the main component that makes spark for the sparkplug? I dont mean to be a bother, just trying to understand how the electrical system on these works. Im thinking about starting a small collection of these. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]
Thanks in advance!

-Jason

BTW...The VIN is JH3TB0500C0167669

First off 200x's are NOT pull starts they are kickstart... You might have a 200x frame with a 200s motor in it. Have you checked with the spark plugh out with it grounded if you have any spark that way? There are three different things that have to do with spark besides what you already have replaced. You have your pulse generator. This is also known as the CDI. This is bolted to your cam shaft. Your ingition stator is by your flywheel and there is also a light generator in there too. The last one is the cdi box. The black box that is the mian box of the bike. I would either say it is your ingition stator or your cdi box because the other two have already been replaced. These startors are very common and fairly easy to find. I would start there. Oh and the stator COULD NOT have gotten wet through rain fall. it is bolted inside of the bottom of the motor. The pluse generator could have gotten wet or the cdi box. Yes the stator is the main component for the spark. Oh and check the wires going into the bottom end of the motor on the pull start side. Wires tend to chafe there and ground out. That might explain why he got it to run fine but you jared it drivin home and messed it up. That would be the first thing I would check.

Wow! Excellent bit of info! So I have a 200s then? Cool! It just has a recoil unit with no battery or kickstart.
Yes, I have grounded the spark plug out on the motor. The CDI box was just hanging and was VERY exposed to the elements. Its been like that for a long time as evident by the scrapes on the front fender by its swinging motion.
I know Ill probally get jumped on for this, but all I have for diagnostic equipment is a test light. A multimeter is on the 'to buy' list.
If I connect the test light to the yellow wire up near the headlight, it lights up perfect even barely pulling the recoil. If I connect it to the single black wire coming directly from the ign stator, I have to pull real fast to get it to light up, and even then, it is a very faint light. The guy at the Honda shop said that this single black wire is responsible for jucing the spark plug and should put out about 75 volts. I am testing the black wire BEFORE the CDI box. Is the voltage amplified AFTER the CDI box? I did try the test light directly on the pos side of the coil. I got nothing at all. I tried the light on the pos side of the CDI pulsar generator and got nothing either. Though, I dont think it should even put out enough to make a test light show the faintest light...
Any ideas based on this? Thanks!

I dont know how to test the cdi box lol. If your bike has FULL suspension then you have a 200x with a 200s motor. If it does not have rear suspension or any at all its a 200s. The cdi box just hanging there does not sound like a good place to have it. You also should buy a repair manual for this bike when you find out what it is. This will be VERY helpful to you to dignose problems in the future. If you tell me the Item number off of ebay I will look and tell you for sure.

Have you checked the wires comming out of the motor of any wear or exposed wires? These are VERY prone to going bad.

Yeah, Ive looked over all wires and connections and they are all good. Ive found a new stator on eBay for $25. Since Ive never had a flywheel off, I dont know what the inside looks like. Can I just replace the stator or do I have to replace the charging unit too? The charging unit works fine since there is a healthy 12 volts at the yellow wire.
eBay auction: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...RK%3AMEWN%3AIT
Yeah, I kow. I overpaid for the trike and if I could go back, I wouldnt have paid that much for a trike in this condition.
I know that, once I get this thinkg running like it should, my thoughts of overpayment will melt away! I had an 83 200s 10 years ago...Ate oil like a **** but man oh man was it a fun ride!
Thanks for all the help here!

Jason, it's not an X, I believe it's an s. You bought it from me dude. Sorry about the problem, but like you said I started it on the second pull, in the rain and it had not been started in weeks. I would recheck the CDI. Each wire is on an individual plug and you can pop each out with a jewelers screw driver. Pull them out one by one, clean and replace. I really think you just may have a bad ground somewhere or a loose connection in one of the CDI plugs. My procedure to start it was: Full choke (all the way up) and no throttle when cold. Choke full on, full throttle when warm. Also, check the ground wires leading to the coil. Use your test light with the clip on the ground and touch a battery to see if you have a decent ground.

Well thats good you have the original owner on here so he knows more about it then me. It is an Atc200 OR even an 185s. The only difference is the bore with these engines. Everything else is the same. They did not make 200s in 82-83. According to bikebandit.com 200s came out in 84. The startor is bolted to the left side case under your pull starter. Just putt that off unbolt it and bolt the other one back on and you will be good to go if indeed your stator. I would check and recheck your wires first to see if anything is loose. A few hours here could tell ya where the problem is. Your light stator has NOTHING to do with your bike not runnin. it is just for your headlights. According to your test light they work good.

So I do not have to remove the flywheel to get to the stator? Good news I guess! No 200cc in 82-83?!? This keeps getting better and better.
I will grind down to good metal and use that as a ground. I will also check each wire on the CDI box. There was one blue wire in the corner that is very loose, but I pushed it back in the plastic connector.
FWIW, the main ground is where I grounded the test light on ALL the tests Ive done.
So, with a bad stator, will it not put out any voltage?? Or...can it still put out a little voltage but still be bad? I will jump right on these tasks. Thanks!

ps..In no way am I blaming you, Josh. It did start up and ran great! Something having to do with transporting it in the rain HAD to cause these problems. I cant think of any other reason since I didnt touch a thing when I called you those times.

It's definately a 200, I ran the engine number when I bought it and it came up as an 82 ATC200 through a dealer. Look below the cylinder head on the back side of the motor and it has the displacement stamped on, I believe it's actually 192 cc. I just looked at the cdi on my 84 TRX200 and one blue wire is for the headlights, the other runs in from the pulse advancer. Double check it, it could be damaged at the pin connector or broken off inside altogether.

Ok my new found friends, it is now getting spark. I went to pull the boot off and it exposed the wire, so I looped it around the post of the spark plug... grounded it out and saw a spark. It did try to fire a couple times(which is the most it has done since I got it home), but to no avail. I cleaned the main ground contact and verified it with the test light. It is a good ground. Just incase, I grounded it directly to the motor instead of the frame. Still......nothing.
I ran out of daylight, so I didnt get the CDI box pins yet, but will do that tomarrow. I also discovered there is one screw holding the pulsar unit on. It seems to not be screwing in all the way or stripped out. Is it possible the pulsar box is too close to the spinning oval thing?(dont know the name for it)
The screw isnt holding it tight enough and in turn, the pulsar box falls too close to the spinning thing? Its not stopping it from spinning, because I took the CDI cover off and pulled the recoil. Its spinning fine and not binding up. ANy thoughts on this new info?
Progress is progress and I am happy to have made some, even if it isnt running!
Thanks guys!