I don't think any of the 450's are great trail quads. The Honda and YFZ chassis handle great on the trail, but they all like to rev, and it gets to be a 2-stroke style clutch-slipping fest when you get into the slow, tight, technical stuff.

If your "trails" are wide open and fast, then maybe, but if they are tighter, then the Raptor is the only choice from your list.

 

heres a yfz that i jus found:
good deal?
04 YFZ: $4700
Mods:
AC Racing:
front bar $90
rear grab bar $100
skid plate $120
swing arm skid plate $100
nerf bars $300
Yamaha:
GYTR carbon fiber pipe $600
jet kit $50
air filter $30
Carlisle tires $400
Trail Wolf (front)
Badlands (rear)
Pro Taper bars/grips $90

 

The Raptor sounds like a better deal.

I ride, and ride with, several guys who ride trails on YFZs. When things get tight you do have to do a bit of clutch slipping but that's all part of the fun. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]

And the 450s can't be beat in terms of handling.

I'm actually thinking about a Raptor 700 (not a 660 - ever - my KFX700 handled better) since I'm not relaly needing all the stuff the 450 has to offer.

 

yea that sux cuz i couldnt make a deal wit the guy sellin the raptor cuz he needs it all at once, and i aint got $4500, lol

 

heres another raptor, i think this is too good to be true, but hey, mayb not, lol
2006 Raptor 700R: $2950
Mods:
GYTR Sport Front Grab Bar, GYTR Rear Grab Bar, GYTR A-arm Skids, GYTR Engine Skids, GYTR Nerf Bars - Powder Coated Red (A-arms powder coated to match also) GYTR Heel Gaurds, GYTR White Drip Graphic Kit, GYTR White Drip shock covers (3), GYTR High Flow Air filter & GYTR outerware, GYTR billet air filter adaptor DynoJet PowerCommander III Barker Dual Exhaust, ITP Holeshot HD Rear Tires, Moose Handlebars with red Renthal crossbar pad, Spider Grips - Red/Black, 15T Front Sprocket NGK Iridium Spark Plug, LED lighting for underglow effect - red Black rims - off 07 SE Raptor 700 Stage III Web Cam & HD spring kit Weiseco 11:1 Piston Extreme Head Porting DR.D Reverse Lever (on handlebars) 06 YFZ 450 Front shocks - Revalved and spring kit by I-shock Rear Shock - Revalved by I-shock

neone hav ne .02 on this deal?

 

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: YIYO

It looks like you are hooked on the engine on the raptor 700, Have you done any research on the recalls , and owners input.Yes it is a 700cc but the rest of the quad? For trail riding I do not think it is your best choice. raptors are known to have problems with cooling and transmission. Have you looked at the new Can Am 450.</end quote></div>

There are no Recalls on the Raptor 700, I have an 07'. YIYO must be thinking of the older Raptor 660, the Raptor 700 has no transmission or cooling problems. If you don't believe me check out www.raptorforum.com these guys will tell you everything you will ever need to know about the Raptor.

For trails definately go for the Raptor 700 or wait until Honda annouces the 08' 400ex on September 6th, it is also an excellent trail quad. Sorry I have never touched the DS450 but it looks awsome on paper. I thought the same about the KFX450 until I sat on on it, way too unconfortable.

 

thanx, i didnt think ther wuz any recalls, cuz i read tons of reviews and only like 3 out of 30 reviews werent 100%

wut a relief, i jus talked to my dad bout gettin the raptor for $2950 that i mentioned earlier and i got a maybe, hopefully i can talk him into it, lol

 

Is that Raptor on eBay? This one?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...tem&item=140139541040


That is a SCAM. RUN AWAY.

 

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: chaosrider989

heres another raptor, i think this is too good to be true, but hey, mayb not, lol

2006 Raptor 700R: $2950

Mods:

GYTR Sport Front Grab Bar, GYTR Rear Grab Bar, GYTR A-arm Skids, GYTR Engine Skids, GYTR Nerf Bars - Powder Coated Red (A-arms powder coated to match also) GYTR Heel Gaurds, GYTR White Drip Graphic Kit, GYTR White Drip shock covers (3), GYTR High Flow Air filter & GYTR outerware, GYTR billet air filter adaptor DynoJet PowerCommander III Barker Dual Exhaust, ITP Holeshot HD Rear Tires, Moose Handlebars with red Renthal crossbar pad, Spider Grips - Red/Black, 15T Front Sprocket NGK Iridium Spark Plug, LED lighting for underglow effect - red Black rims - off 07 SE Raptor 700 Stage III Web Cam & HD spring kit Weiseco 11:1 Piston Extreme Head Porting DR.D Reverse Lever (on handlebars) 06 YFZ 450 Front shocks - Revalved and spring kit by I-shock Rear Shock - Revalved by I-shock



neone hav ne .02 on this deal?</end quote></div>

i think they fergot to put another 1 in front of that price. i have a 700r raptor and love it. its the best all around quad ive ever had. it can go from the trails to hitting the dunes, to drag racing.

 

i figured it wuz a scam, lol
if i cant find nethin that i like used for $3000(cuz thats all i got for cash right now) or less, im jus gonna wait till christmas, and hav my ma co-sign a loan for me to get an 08' Raptor