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Old Jun 16, 2008 | 08:42 AM
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One of my buddy's just bought a new 2007 AC 400, his first or second quad I think, and he loves it. Congrats, I think you will enjoy it a lot.

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Old Jun 16, 2008 | 09:41 AM
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Yea, I'll be using it alot thanks to our cabin which is located exactly 18 miles from our doorstep! It has 4 bike trails that I know of, all a couple miles or longer. If I would go several miles from the lake there are more trails, not to mention my grandfathers farm which he is more than happy to let me ride in as long as I don't tear up his road he made with his truck and his blocked off pasture where he stores his equipment.

I also was turning and hit the gas a little hard yesterday, ended up on one wheel for less than a second but it was still nearly enough to give me a heart attack or make me **** myself.

I love this bike!
 
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Old Jun 16, 2008 | 09:49 AM
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Yeah with IRS, you usually have to adjust your weight a little more to the inside of the turn than an SRA quad. Nothing to worry about, just takes a little different riding style to get the hand of.

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Old Jun 16, 2008 | 10:22 AM
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Does that AC have a sway-bar/ant-roll bar? If not the body will lean twice as much on a curve as other quads.

Back in the early 80s some of my army buddies found out the old jeeps had the same problem when they rolled it over. They were lucky it was a hard-top because most army jeeps were soft-tops and none of them had roll-bars.
 
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Old Jun 16, 2008 | 11:05 AM
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@KRAIT, What're IRS and SRA?

@FRANK, I could tell you if you tell me what it looks like. If it doesn't should I have one added or is it fine as it is?

It happened when I was doing 30+ish and whipped the steering all the way over to try and spin around. Didn't work too well. I started turning sideways, got scared and hit the throttle as hard as I could without thinking of what may happen (wheelie) and it went from there, started edging up and moved my body in the way I was attempting to turn (I read the manual this morning and now know how to actually turn the bike properly now) and let off of the gas, It stopped lifting and leveled out while the engine break was kicking in.

http://www.powersportsnetwork...._vehicle.asp?veh=8572

Here's the bike. mine is a red 5 speed manual with auto clutch though, not sure what that one is.
 
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Old Jun 16, 2008 | 11:13 AM
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IRS= Independant rear suspension
SRA= Straight rear axle

IRS you will get better ground clearance and better "footing" in off camber situations.

SRA will give you more stability when powersliding or cornering.
 
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Old Jun 16, 2008 | 11:20 AM
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Hmm, yeah I forgot Arctic Cat quads don't come with anti-sway bars standard. But it is available as an option/accessory, so maybe it had one added. From the sounds of it tho I would bet it doesn't have one.

Neo, IRS is Independant Rear Suspension. Basically means you have dual shocks in the back, with A-arms angled off from the frame. SRA is Solid Rear Axle, means you have a solid straight axle in the back so it won't flex from side to side. SRA is usually more stable, powerslides better, due to less bodyroll. IRS has usually more ground clearance, and can flex more allowing a smoother ride over rough terrain as each wheel acts 'independantly' from the other one.

Most IRS quads come equipted with an anti-sway bar in the back, this helps reduce body roll/lean during cornering. But I don't believe Arctic Cats come standard with that, it is an option. Look at the back of the atv, under the rack but above skidplates, somewhere in that region there will be a bar going straight across the width of the atv. If it has that, then theres your anti-sway bar.

Maybe someone else can explain better how to look for an anti-sway bar on a quad lol.

I would bet your quad doesn't have one, Arctic Cat doesn't put them on as standard because it restricts wheel flex, which is why Arctic Cats are great offroaders with lots of wheel travel and suspension flex. But they aren't the greatest for going fast around a corner.

Its up to you to put one on, if you are ok with how it handles, then you should be fine. You just have to adjust your riding style to suit the quad. But if the quad doesn't corner or handle quite as well as you'd like, if it has too much body lean and roll during cornering, then I would look into putting one on.

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Old Jun 16, 2008 | 11:43 AM
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I'm trying to help but all I can find about AC is all adult-size ATVs have IRS with NO sway bar. That's why it body rolls twice as much as it should, and tries to dump you. I can't find anything about an optional sway-bar either. It's something that either is or isn't designed into it. I heard that AC sucks for rock-crawling because it flexes so much, but that's what I thought would make it better. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif[/img] I never did any rock-crawling so I can't say. Opinions are easy to come by but facts aren't. I do know that with a sway-bar you can power-slide the IRS quads. http://www.atv.info/section.cfm?id=53
 
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Old Jun 16, 2008 | 11:57 AM
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Here you go Neo, if you just don't like the way your cat handles, you can try this:

http://www.powersportsnetwork....&ProductCategoryCode=


$130, not bad, not sure how much a dealer might charge to install, might be easy to do yourself?

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Old Jun 16, 2008 | 12:48 PM
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Knew I saw an accessory anti-sway bar for 'cats somewhere...
 
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