ive heard a ds beats a raptor in top speed. but i ve also seen a raptor beat a ds in a magazine.
so what's right

 

Ds is a little quicker and faster than a raptor stock.

 

it should come down to the rider but the ds should edge it out, when even

 

Never believe what you read. In ATV magazines anyway. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]

 

yea most of the time i dont

 

I have a 04 ds and my cousin has a 04 raptor. When we race I beat him everytime by about 4 or 5 bike lengths. We are both piped, jetted and have K&N filters.

 

yea but who is a better rider, i beat a z 400 that was souped alittle with my stock 400ex.
but that was only couse i was a better rider

 

no it wasn't cause you said you switched and you still lost when you were on his Z

 

yea i know but still
and how bout u shut up

 

I have a stock my raptor and my father has a stock ds we are neck and neck the whole way he beats me by about 1/2 bike lenght, but my riding buddy also has the same exact ds as my father the 04 and beats me by about 2 bike lenghts, it is very close the whole way, we were doing radar runs with the two stock raptor 75mph stock ds 77 mph, very close, as far as better rider I just cant understand that just because you are good at hole shots dosent mean you are a better rider than somebody,