Newb DS question
#11
The first DS to enter and win the Baja 1000 ran 17 / 37 gearing. It was set up by Ron Woods Racing.
I have run that same gearing on my 2000 DS and when topped out on a smooth fire road, it is scary fast. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif[/img]
I ran this set-up for over a year in both sand, on trails and fire roads with no problem however, I run a Big Gun Pipe and Ron Woods CDI w/o rev limit. I'm not sure a bone stock DS would pull this gearing in the sand very well.
I have run that same gearing on my 2000 DS and when topped out on a smooth fire road, it is scary fast. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif[/img]
I ran this set-up for over a year in both sand, on trails and fire roads with no problem however, I run a Big Gun Pipe and Ron Woods CDI w/o rev limit. I'm not sure a bone stock DS would pull this gearing in the sand very well.
#13
I keep seeing that the majority of you drop a tooth on the front to a 14 or 15. I already feel like first gear is really short with a 16 and 20" rear tires. Do you even use first gear with a 14 or 15 sprocket?
#14
AZDUNER,
With 17/37 gearing, do you actually exceed the stock rev limit in 5th gear? Is the rev limiter really holding back that much power? I have thought of going to an increased rev limit, but I am worried about blowing up the motor because it wasn't built for that kind of revs.
With 17/37 gearing, do you actually exceed the stock rev limit in 5th gear? Is the rev limiter really holding back that much power? I have thought of going to an increased rev limit, but I am worried about blowing up the motor because it wasn't built for that kind of revs.
#15
I wouldnt worry about blowing the motor too much, just dont hammer it till the valves float. I would suggest a rev-limited box if you are worried at all (I wasnt worried that I would personally over-rev, but that I would crash and it would somehow rev up and blow it).
#16
I agree w/ Roost.
Also, Bombardier has gradually increased the Rev. Limit since the DS's introduction. It's the same motor internally so they were pretty conservative when they first released it. I think it's really hard to hurt a stock bore motor / stock carb on pump gas.
The only time I have floated the valves is when missing a shift on a hill race and I haven't done that too many times. As a result, I have never thought I needed a rev limiter for the motor's safety.
I'm running 15/40 right now and that seems to be a good all around setup.
Also, Bombardier has gradually increased the Rev. Limit since the DS's introduction. It's the same motor internally so they were pretty conservative when they first released it. I think it's really hard to hurt a stock bore motor / stock carb on pump gas.
The only time I have floated the valves is when missing a shift on a hill race and I haven't done that too many times. As a result, I have never thought I needed a rev limiter for the motor's safety.
I'm running 15/40 right now and that seems to be a good all around setup.
#17
AZDUNNER,
I have an 02 DS650 Baja, and from the material I have read, the stock rev limit is 7900 rpm. I have read different threads in here about the power difference of increasing the rev limit, both positive and negative. Did you notice that big of a difference, or is the motor past it's power curve anyhow.
Also, don't you lose first gear with 15/40 gearing? I already don't use it with 16/40 and 20" tires.
I have an 02 DS650 Baja, and from the material I have read, the stock rev limit is 7900 rpm. I have read different threads in here about the power difference of increasing the rev limit, both positive and negative. Did you notice that big of a difference, or is the motor past it's power curve anyhow.
Also, don't you lose first gear with 15/40 gearing? I already don't use it with 16/40 and 20" tires.
#18
Here is a thought. The DS motor makes most its power below 7K RPM, and the torque curve is even lower. So why would you want to rev it past the stock CDI? On a stock motor after about 7200 the power REALLY starts falling off. If you have some mods, I can see truning it tighter. Stock? I see no need. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif[/img]
#19
The biggest difference I noticed was when running up sand hills.
I don't remember what the stock limiter on a 2000 DS was but I was bouncing off it alot of the time in third gear when running hills like China Wall @ Glamis. I knew there was another 500-1000 unable RPMs there so I went with the Ron Woods CDI and it made a big difference in racing up that same hill.
I don't remember what the stock limiter on a 2000 DS was but I was bouncing off it alot of the time in third gear when running hills like China Wall @ Glamis. I knew there was another 500-1000 unable RPMs there so I went with the Ron Woods CDI and it made a big difference in racing up that same hill.
#20
Originally posted by: clshortt
Here is a thought. The DS motor makes most its power below 7K RPM, and the torque curve is even lower. So why would you want to rev it past the stock CDI? On a stock motor after about 7200 the power REALLY starts falling off. If you have some mods, I can see truning it tighter. Stock? I see no need. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif[/img]
Here is a thought. The DS motor makes most its power below 7K RPM, and the torque curve is even lower. So why would you want to rev it past the stock CDI? On a stock motor after about 7200 the power REALLY starts falling off. If you have some mods, I can see truning it tighter. Stock? I see no need. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif[/img]
Regear to pull the hill at the proper rpm instead of re-cdi' ing (is that a word?) to pull the wrong gear.
just thoughts dribbling out
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