I like mine and do not miss the DS much.

 

The gearing 0n the 06 700R is 14-38 as opposed to the 13-40 on the 05 660R this is based on the stock gearing that came on my 05 660R and my 06 700R

 

The Yama also has reverse and only weighs in at 397lb.

Personally I don't think that it was a good comparison. You are not measuring apples to apples. The DS was designed for a completely different type of riding, specifically high speed open desert racing. I'd like to see what the longevity of the Jap bike is and to see how it holds up while blazing through the Baja.....The Yama was designed for closed course MX type racing.

I've seen people run the DS into everything from another Quad to trucks, flip the puppy back over and ride away. I don't think you can say the same for the Yama......

Nevertheless, Bomb better get off chitter and start making a bike that is more competitive with the Jap market or they will lose what little market share they have.

 

scoundrel, i agree w/ya. very tough. i am the king of wrecks( so it seems) and i must say that there is a few times my frame sould have been bent but it is still straight as a grizzly's dic#$%^.[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]

 

I've seen people run the DS into everything from another Quad to trucks, flip the puppy back over and ride away. I don't think you can say the same for the Yama......
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Exactly, this is what I think is the major difference between the two. My DS has been flipped twice, the second time my buddy was going downhill, lost it on a whoop, quad went flying into a tree then rolled another 20 ft down the trail, when he got to the bottom, other then some dirt and a broken seat latch, the quad never missed a beat. Could a Raptor take this kind of abuse and still be able to be ridden the rest of the day?

My buddies wives Raptor 350 rolled over three times down a hill, tweaked the handlebars, tweaked some plastic and bent the rear axle pretty bad.

 

Shoot Keith, at least you went trail riding with us!!! even though your leaning more toward the GO FAST IN A STRAIGHT LINE CLUB we all still love you and will welcome you back to the SOUL SURFING trail riding club.... ONLY IF YOU LET ME RIDE YOUR QUAD AND PUSH THAT RED BUTTON ONCE OR TWICE, Ok fine I love the DRAGS..... DAMNIT!!!!!

 

lol hey, that a cheap shot at me? and i couldn't drive mine away, but i did fair very well considering, but the dakota also needed 2 doors, box, front fender and a hub cap if i remember right, i wish i had pics of the truck, now if a craptor hit that it'd b off a lot worse

 

hehehe now thats funny! the ds needs to be BELOW 400lbs,have reverse and if they kept the same motor it would compete!and yes you can have light weight and strong....just look at a gasgas...all chromoly!under 400lbs with full skids,nerfs,190 wheels ,big axel,and 52"inch width,among other things that makes a quad heavy,hell my a-arms and frame are 1 1/8th tube

and compairing finall draive gear ratio's doesnt mean anything,because the trans ratios are completely differnt!

 

Too fear not when you remove 38lbs from the ds all else being stock including tires aginst a stock 700R(we raced at 339th) well lets just say he won't be running his mouth any more and when you test do a 06 baja x aginst the 06 raptor thats fair. oh yea the raptor had sandstars
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Running who's mouth AZ? I didnt start this thread to bash the DS. There has been alot of folks who were curious about how they stack up. We had a chance to see what was faster. I guess you didnt read the post very carefully. Concerning weight, Don weighs 280lbs Im 210 thats a 70lb diffrence. The 700 came out on top with either of us on it. 38lbs wouldnt have made the difference. I kinda agree with Scoundrel, the bikes are not built for the same purpose. We were simply comparing drag racing power.