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Old Jan 12, 2006 | 01:48 PM
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Originally posted by: 650VIPER
Demon you funny boy. Yes nitrous pressure does vary with bottle pressure. But as the pressure in the bottle drops, so does the fuel pressure. So you always, always have a correct mixture.

The Boss system sounds good, but once you have read through there spill, and really think about it, you'll get a better picture. Some people swear by it, just not me.
So are you saying that with the pressurized bottle, you may not have a correct mixture? To me if you loose pressure, your 25 shot may only get you 15, where as the boss system will be 25 the first and last spray. Am I correct? Is there a serious down side to the Boss system? Would it be better to go with the boons system? Help for the unknowing [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif[/img]
 
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Old Jan 13, 2006 | 12:16 AM
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Yes, you may start with a 25 shot, and end with a 15 shot with the boonys system. It all goes off bottle pressure. As I understand it, the pressure is regulated to a set pressure with Boss noss. Say 300psi. So with that 300psi, you are suppose to get your 25shot, consistant everytime. Does it work, I dont know dont own it, however, call them and get there spill. If you can research nitrous, wet and dry alike before hand, you can fill in the gaps better. The boonies system isnt perfect, like I have said before, if you want a perfect hit everytime, go with a wet system with all the heaters and guages and what not, that way you know your getting what you want.
 
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Old Jan 13, 2006 | 12:24 AM
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The cost is pretty much the same about 680 bones.
 
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Old Jan 13, 2006 | 10:20 AM
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One of the problems with Boony's ATV system is high heat situations. When the temperature approaches 100 degre F., the bottle pressure dramatically increases. The solinoid that they are using to open the nitrous doesnt open very well at those high bottle pressures. So, for the dune riders, in high heat situations, the way around that is to use carbon bottles and larger ones. Carbon fiber will keep the temperature more stable for a longer period of time because carbon fiber is more insulating. Larger bottles with more nitrous will also help keep things cooler, and the pressure down. Another way to help those users is to use the portable nitrous refill station. Then you can add more cooling nitrous into your bottles to help maintain the temperature. For those that dont have a nitrous system yet, that is one benefit of those systems that regulate the pressure down. Then the solinoid doesnt have open failure issues.

 
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Old Jan 13, 2006 | 12:19 PM
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Originally posted by: Teebone56
The cost is pretty much the same about 680 bones.

Teebone, I did check the Boss website and it looks to me like the BOSS system is more money - $799 compared to Boony's for $695. One other thing to note, that there are no electrical connections to make on the BOSS system. The whole system is self powered.
 
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Old Jan 13, 2006 | 12:30 PM
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Ahhhhhh, choices choices choices.....It would sound as the Boss system would be better then the boon system. But what about the wet systems? Also, if you go to fuel injected system is there a certain way you have to go?
 
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Old Jan 13, 2006 | 12:39 PM
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What is a wet system? There is quite a bit of debate about wet vs dry, but does anybody actually know the true definition of a either system?

As far as EFI, you need an EFI controller. The only EFI controller that is nitrous ready is the Boss Noss controller. Aparently they have the Dobeck box, with some special stuff added to it so it can do nitrous. I actually got my hands on one and played with it. You have settings for low, med and high fuel loads, just like a carb. The user can change 7 main jet sizes (comparitively) in either direction. Larger range changes can be done by Boss or thier dealers. So for the Outlander, 700R and Suzuki 450, if you want Nitrous, I think that only leaves one choice.
 
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Old Jan 13, 2006 | 01:11 PM
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I would like to know exactly what the differences are between the two also. In stupid terms, or I will have to ask some one to translate for me [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif[/img]
 
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maybe this will help?


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The whole site is pretty interesting, just click the home button to view the whole site.
 
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Old Jan 13, 2006 | 01:17 PM
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Dry system at least refers to naked nitrous being injected somewhere by itself. A lot of folks that do this put it into the cylinder. The cooling affect (so the theory goes) of the nitrous will balance out a naturally lean condition. Wet systems at least refer to nitrous and gasoline combined in the same spray. So, systems like BOON and BOSS are truely neither, but more of a hybrid.
 
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