More Vortex questions
#1
I am going to eventually install a nitrous system on my stock bore and the Vortex seems to be a good addition to a nitrous system but i have a few questions.Will i notice any real performance gains while using the Vortex without Nitrous?How much of a difference is there in the feel of the power delivery when switching betwen curves?Will the switch on the bars hold up to all weather conditions (rain)?I have read as many back posts as i could find but i always like to get the most recent opinions in case any new issues have come up.Thanks for any responses.
#2
Switching between different curves on the fly you are not going to notice much of a difference other than rev limit. YOu can see a slight dip in RPM if you hold the throttle steady going from an agressive to non-agressive curve. I have not had any problems with my handlebar switch and it has been through the rain a couple of times. Hope that helps.
#3
dsengineer do you think since the rev limiter would be set at a higher rpm than stock it could cause engine failure or problems when using the nitrous? I am talking about the stock engine I don't know what you are running in the engine but I am sure you have a nitrous piston and setup already
#4
Bombrider, the stock components are not meant to run up to the 8900 limit the vortex, or any aftermarket cdi give them. However, many people have done it, including me. I ran my stock motor with the vortex and a lectron for a full year before doing more work, with no ill effects. So I dont think it is an issue, but warn to be careful not to run it at the rev limit for long.
Duneit, I agree with the Engineer, I didnt notice much difference between curves. I had Eric get mine reprogramed to pull timing out in increments from the power map, to -18*. I did that to allow safer nitrous runs. I pull 4* out while using the funny stuff, just for the extra precaution. The stock power map is not that aggressive in the vortex as it is, and I have ran a 25 shot with it for over a year without much trouble. I dont think you will find any issues with the cdi. Its a pretty nice deal, being able to have it programed to fit your needs. Kind of like the MSD, in a much simpler, and smaller package.
So to some it up, my cdi is now on its fourth season. The one on my wifes machine is one of the originals produced, and neither have had any issues. We just ordered another aswell.
Duneit, I agree with the Engineer, I didnt notice much difference between curves. I had Eric get mine reprogramed to pull timing out in increments from the power map, to -18*. I did that to allow safer nitrous runs. I pull 4* out while using the funny stuff, just for the extra precaution. The stock power map is not that aggressive in the vortex as it is, and I have ran a 25 shot with it for over a year without much trouble. I dont think you will find any issues with the cdi. Its a pretty nice deal, being able to have it programed to fit your needs. Kind of like the MSD, in a much simpler, and smaller package.
So to some it up, my cdi is now on its fourth season. The one on my wifes machine is one of the originals produced, and neither have had any issues. We just ordered another aswell.
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#9
thanks 650 viper I know there would be problems in the results that could happen while taking the rev limiter to higher rpms I just wanted to really wasn't usning the nitrous and other components on a stock engine...I just wanted to really know and should have asked this...could you still have th same harmful effects using say hpr's nitrous piston and using the vortex.
Thanks Brett
Thanks Brett
#10
You know, in my opinion, the stock piston is a pretty good one. We have thrown a couple hundred pounds of nitrous too a couple stock pistons, and they still look new. The issue when raising the rev limit comes from the valve train. You just need to address floating valves when raising the limit up. If you were to say put a bigger cam, vortex, and a piston in, without dual rates, or shim unders, then I would think you could have an issue.


