Zorro my post about the 30mph it has to do with if you are in 2wd not awd. I was told by dealer not to spin the tires fast on ice in 2wd cause the front can engage without being on.

 

if you want to get a pol 800, my friend has 1 with only 36hrs. he has now purchased the xt 800. out of 4 quads when we rode last weekend he was the only 1 to have problems, he couldnt even make it up banshee hill in 2x4, had to air down his tires and go to 4x4.the only 1 to have problems and he is an experienced rider.dont even ask about downhill. kawi would be # 2 and honda 3.

 

As a matter a fact my mother was a crack addict and she died during labor and they had to do a emergency c section to save my life!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I wont drop to your level to call your family names!

1st your wrong it does not have true 2 wheel drive, the front WILL kick in when the rear spins. I know this for a fact because all the POOPOO's do it when we go play in the snow and ice they cany even spin a donut without this problem.

And about the ebs system on POOPOO's I would like to see you go down some of the hill we ride without using your brakes!! I can put my Outty in low 4x4 and go down the steepest hills around without a hint of a problem!
Maybe all the complants and the internet made them revise their system to have 4x4 ebs

 

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Originally posted by: zorro700
zorro, two posts say you're wrong. I was also thinkin' 30 mph? Faster? Didn't think about ice. This situation of 30 mph faster would never happen on the trail, but, it does look like the Poo does not have true 2wd. Looks like nobody's stupid, cause you really got to be kickin' it on ice to have the rears going 30 mph faster, no good rider would do that.

 

There is a way to get ebs in all 4 wheels it has to do with tricking the front by putting it in reverse in awd an getting the gas so engages then put in low or high before going down the hill do not tap the gas to much cause it disengae then going down the hill . I have heard a few people talking about it have not tried it myself but I have not had any problems myself.

 

scrambler, you might want to post this trick, might save somebody some problems. Actually, if this works as you say, it would be a favor to your fellow polaris riders to post this as a new topic. Would be well worth the post, since most of the posts don't have to do with safety tip like this one. My 2 centavos.

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4fitty, you got off to a bad start, but by your pics, you're doing good now. I'm older than you guys, I don't know one person who has had it easy coming up.

Good looking family, fine looking women too.

 

Now that we have looked closely at the 4WD systems and understand the major differences, lets now look at suspensions.

The BRP front suspension is dual a-arms. The Polaris is MacPherson strut. The BRP dual a-arms is considered a more high performance suspension because it is less resistant to the affects of body roll. The MacPherson strut is considered a much more durable suspension because of the lack of pivots and bump shock is transmitted directly to the strut to be absorbed by the shock. The Polaris has 0.2 inch more suspension travel.

The BRP rear suspension uses a trailing links. The Polaris rear uses dual a-arms. The Polaris has 0.5 inch more suspension travel. The BRP is more durable because it has less pivot points, although not as durable as struts. The Polaris rear suspension is a more high performance suspension for two reasons. First, as in all dual a-arm suspensions, body roll does not affect the tire position. Polaris has an additional advantage in that torque on the rear wheels do not affect suspension movement.

It is interesting to read the marketing of the BRP suspension. They suggest that scrub is the reason you want their suspension. However, they built their front suspension to create exactly this scrub. If it is bad for the back, it must be bad for the front. Seems marketing and engineering needs to sit at the same table and make up their minds.

The other interesting point they make, they are trying to convince us that a trailing link suspension somehow goes over bumps easier. When you look at the forces acting on the two suspension when you hit a bump, you find no difference in the way the suspension reacts in either case. Sounds interesting, but it makes no difference. LOL.. I remember the wheel barrow analogy that BRP had in an early brochure. Shows how far off marketing is from reality.

Now what no one tells you is that every time you accelerate or brake with the BRP trailing link suspension, the torque of the rear wheel applies the torque directly the link causing the suspension to move. That is one reason, no high performance vehicle uses trailing link with IRS. You will find it on straight axles, because you have no choice with straight axles. On the other hand, torque transmitted to/from the wheel has no affect on the Polaris dual a-arm or MacPherson strut suspensions.

The other major problem with the BRP trailing arm suspension is that the wheels tilt as the body rolls. This is not good. Given that the BRP is two inches narrower, it probably does not help stability. The Polaris dual a-arm on the other hand do not tilt as the body rolls and unlike the trailing link, they increase the camber as the suspension depresses to increase the stability on turns. The dual a-arms or even the strut suspension would have been a much better choice on the BRP to reduce many of these unwanted effects.

I see mixed signals from BRP on their suspension. They give us a very good suspension in the front and a very bad suspension in the rear. Even a strut suspension would be better on the back of the BRP and it would be more durable.

 

How's that rear suspension on your Polaris Trailblazer 250 workin' for ya?

 

Man Im glad I bought the inferior machine. Because the POOPOO is just to good for me! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Man my ribs hurt now after all the laughter. You win, please keep buying POOPOO's you realy do deserve one LOL