DS Conversion Cost Other than The Motor??
#2
The conversion,s are quite pricey you will need to redo the frame and mounts need to have your radiator redone with the thermo censor from the busa radiator and install a new 10" fan also have a custom gas tank made and install the fuel injection system and all of the wiring and guages and the ignition system also figure out the geomitry of the motor in your frame and upgrade your suspention to handle the extra weight and a new exhaust system. and a few hundred other minor details :0) and after you get it all done you get to tear it apart and paint it all up. That is where I am rite now. But it is worth the trouble once you ride it and it tries to pull your arms out of the sockets. Once you ride one nothing else compares to the power and torque.
#3
I think the hardest part for me was taking a sawzall to my perfectly good frame but once you cut it up their is no turning back. Also you have to reconfigure your rear shock mounting. If you have any questions I would be glad to help you out becouse it is not easy. I had Supersonic Toys help me out when I did mine and it made it allot easier he really helped with the electronics aand the frame setup.
#4
Yes they are expensive, mine still aint done, like Tpsyscho said it's all the little things that add up. Like hoses and cables and new mount bolts........the list goes on but you get the idea. But when they are done, like the R1 is, it's all worth it.[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-cool.gif[/img]
#6
Email DStroyer
He has built many DS conversions using motorcycle engines.
His latest is a turbo Busa
Very big on drag racing in the midwest.
His name is Gary Gauger
He is not very active on this forum and if he does not respond
I will let you know the other forum he is on.
OMR
He has built many DS conversions using motorcycle engines.
His latest is a turbo Busa
Very big on drag racing in the midwest.
His name is Gary Gauger
He is not very active on this forum and if he does not respond
I will let you know the other forum he is on.
OMR
#7
Well the cost will be less to get the 800, the cost of a streetbike motor alone would get u the 800 upgrade done, but if u were goin conversion getting the motor is just a baby step in ur long walk ahead
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#9
Well, in my humble opinion.... Sorry Erbe, had to chime in on this one, I will NEVER buy another quad. I would only build another conversion. The pursuit of power, speed and reliability stops with the conversion. That is, if it's done correctly and you don't skip corners.
What is the actuall cost of the conversion? That's hard to say. You have to have certain tools and knowledge. Everything from a sawsall to a Tig welder will be needed. A VERY GOOD electrical knowledge is needed if you want it to work perfectly and as advertised. My conversion had NO GIMMICKS, no hidden character flaws... It took a while and lots of effort but every switch, lever, light and botton worked exactly as advertised and exactly like a DS worked from the factory. Not to toot my own horn, but I've seen VERY few that do. I'd like to take credit for the electrical, but BUD was the mastermind behind the final product. In addition to the tools and knowledge, you have to have a DS already or have a Roller ready to go. If you didn't you would also have to soak up that cost. In my case, I purchased my 03 Viper new, and in 07 converted it. I WISH that I had the money that was sunk into motors over those 3.5 - 4 years and just had done the conversion instead. NOTHING compared to it. I could run that bike 40 times back after back up the biggest hill and it never blinked. It's was the perfect sand hog in my opinion. That said, the motor was a 1000R motor not the Busa. The Busa is a HUGE powerplant to drop in. Lot of things come into play when you choose that motor. I LIKED the 1000r choice better for many reasons. Many will disagree, but this is simply my opinion. Even down from TQ in comparison to the Busa, it still had a CRAP pot full more than my 730 in RACE PREP MODE did. Make no mistake, the power that these bikes put out is nothing to mess with. They can get you into trouble real quick, but can also be the end all to fun.
I have a frame that needs to be converted now and have toyed with doing another. With the acquision of a front end (top to bottom) and a motor, I'd be in business. It's hard though, choosing between my Sand Car (Which I ABSOLUTELY LOVE) and building a conversion.... The sand car always seems to win. Nothing like doing 70 up comp at dumont while listing to the Spam wordSpam word Spam wordSpam word Spam wordSpam word Spam wordSpam word and talking to my kids on the head set. NOTHING LIKE IT. The conversion would beat it up the hill by a length or so, but I can pilot the car all day, and not be fatiqued. Day trips become REAL EASY!!
Good Luck Erbe.
What is the actuall cost of the conversion? That's hard to say. You have to have certain tools and knowledge. Everything from a sawsall to a Tig welder will be needed. A VERY GOOD electrical knowledge is needed if you want it to work perfectly and as advertised. My conversion had NO GIMMICKS, no hidden character flaws... It took a while and lots of effort but every switch, lever, light and botton worked exactly as advertised and exactly like a DS worked from the factory. Not to toot my own horn, but I've seen VERY few that do. I'd like to take credit for the electrical, but BUD was the mastermind behind the final product. In addition to the tools and knowledge, you have to have a DS already or have a Roller ready to go. If you didn't you would also have to soak up that cost. In my case, I purchased my 03 Viper new, and in 07 converted it. I WISH that I had the money that was sunk into motors over those 3.5 - 4 years and just had done the conversion instead. NOTHING compared to it. I could run that bike 40 times back after back up the biggest hill and it never blinked. It's was the perfect sand hog in my opinion. That said, the motor was a 1000R motor not the Busa. The Busa is a HUGE powerplant to drop in. Lot of things come into play when you choose that motor. I LIKED the 1000r choice better for many reasons. Many will disagree, but this is simply my opinion. Even down from TQ in comparison to the Busa, it still had a CRAP pot full more than my 730 in RACE PREP MODE did. Make no mistake, the power that these bikes put out is nothing to mess with. They can get you into trouble real quick, but can also be the end all to fun.
I have a frame that needs to be converted now and have toyed with doing another. With the acquision of a front end (top to bottom) and a motor, I'd be in business. It's hard though, choosing between my Sand Car (Which I ABSOLUTELY LOVE) and building a conversion.... The sand car always seems to win. Nothing like doing 70 up comp at dumont while listing to the Spam wordSpam word Spam wordSpam word Spam wordSpam word Spam wordSpam word and talking to my kids on the head set. NOTHING LIKE IT. The conversion would beat it up the hill by a length or so, but I can pilot the car all day, and not be fatiqued. Day trips become REAL EASY!!
Good Luck Erbe.
#10
Bigdaddy do you think that it would be easier to use the 1000 verses the 1300? I have only done the busa conversion but am probably going to do another bike in the future but this one will be strictly a 300 ft drag bike. The Busa was a big project for the first one but I sure learned allot and if I do another one it will be allot easier. Thanks.


