CAN-AM (BRP) Discussions about CAN-AM ATVs.

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Old May 20, 2011 | 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by RickB
Think he was scared...
me too
 
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Old May 22, 2011 | 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Specta
My friends Suzuki is goverend when the front locker is locked, I b elieve that the others with manually locking front diffs are too with the exception of Polaris and CanAm.

Both of those ATVs will allow for the front tires to rotate at different speeds while cornering and manual lockers will not and that greatly affects steering.

I would like to have a viscous locker in my Rubicon.
I think it's more of an rpm limmiter while locked in, not speed- I remember my 05 KQ700 would limit the rpm while locked in.

I love this video because it shows you just how usful a front locker is. So many people say "who needs a locker up front?"...

They really enable you to have that extra confidence when faced with a technical obstacle. It's all about moving forward
 
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Old May 22, 2011 | 03:53 PM
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Another testimony to the Can Am four wheel drive system after this weekend. We went riding in southern Utah, and my 20 year old son was riding way way way too fast, blew a turn in fifth gear, and hit a tree. He completely uprooted the 4" diameter cedar tree, debarked a good portion of it, and tumbled end over end for a good fifty feet before stopping. He is real lucky to have no more than a serious case of road rash (or maybe its tree rash). He bent both a-arms on the left side of his sport ATV, and took out the radiator. With no engine cooling, we had to tow him 20 miles back to the truck. Part of the way back was through sand dunes. Ever tried to tow another quad and rider up a sand dune, with the other quad having a dead engine and seriously screwed up front end alignment. Oh yah baby, time to use that Can Am 800's muscle. Probably the only time I've ever held the throttle wide open for a sustained length of time on one of these 800s. And the four wheel drive system is awesome, ... no rev limiters, no speed limiters, just give it wide open throttle and get the job done.
 
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Old May 22, 2011 | 04:33 PM
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Dang! Hopefully you remembered to pay the land owner the cost of replanting new cedar tree

Ok, seriously good to hear it was just road rash...

Anyways, there is always owners who swear the 100% mechanical locker is only way to go and then there is owners who don't. I like mine is I don't need to pay attention to it, flip it ON and OFF, it's always there ready to lock when ever front wheels need to lock.
 
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Old May 22, 2011 | 08:44 PM
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How much does a tree cost, $100? I paid for hundreds and hundreds of trees last year then, because the land owner was the federal government (BLM).
 
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Old May 22, 2011 | 11:08 PM
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Originally Posted by DesertViper
He is real lucky to have no more than a serious case of road rash (or maybe its tree rash).
I'm glad to hear you son is OK.
 
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Old May 23, 2011 | 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by DesertViper
Another testimony to the Can Am four wheel drive system after this weekend. We went riding in southern Utah, and my 20 year old son was riding way way way too fast, blew a turn in fifth gear, and hit a tree. He completely uprooted the 4" diameter cedar tree, debarked a good portion of it, and tumbled end over end for a good fifty feet before stopping. He is real lucky to have no more than a serious case of road rash (or maybe its tree rash). He bent both a-arms on the left side of his sport ATV, and took out the radiator. With no engine cooling, we had to tow him 20 miles back to the truck. Part of the way back was through sand dunes. Ever tried to tow another quad and rider up a sand dune, with the other quad having a dead engine and seriously screwed up front end alignment. Oh yah baby, time to use that Can Am 800's muscle. Probably the only time I've ever held the throttle wide open for a sustained length of time on one of these 800s. And the four wheel drive system is awesome, ... no rev limiters, no speed limiters, just give it wide open throttle and get the job done.
Man! That sounds like a heck of a bad day! Glad your son came out of it relatively ok. Bet he's sore today though... Hope you can get his bike fixed without too much expense.

Awesome example of the benefit of not having a limiter on a full lock drive train. Doesn't sound like you could have made it if it was spittn' and sputtern' with a rev limiter kicking in at low to mid RPM...

I think the Visco got somewhat of a bad rep early on, but this newest QE generation is awesome. I've been a Polaris rider for over 10 years (on the same machine) and loved the automatic engagement of the "true all wheel drive". I could/can go anywhere only limited by tire grip. Our new Polaris is the same old tried and true system except you don't get that annoying hub lock sticking.

My point is my new Can-Am with Visco QE is every bit as good as the Polaris system. Seems just as quick to engage and pulls me through whatever terrain I'm in. Believe me, if it was slow to engage and there was a lot of tire spinning, I'd be complaining big time! There's not. Just set it to 4wd and forget it. Just that simple....
 
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Old May 23, 2011 | 08:19 AM
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I was talking to an 09 grizzly 700 owner this weekend- the kind of guy who thinks he has the best of everything, and what ever you have sucks-

he's giving me this BS line on how the polaris & can-am diffs are junk because they are hydraulically locked in whereas his grizzly front diff mechanically locks in, and therefore, the grizzly is the (only) superior 4x4 made.

I just took a deep breath and said "oh wow, I never realized that!"
 
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Old May 23, 2011 | 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by beergut
I was talking to an 09 grizzly 700 owner this weekend- the kind of guy who thinks he has the best of everything, and what ever you have sucks-

he's giving me this BS line on how the polaris & can-am diffs are junk because they are hydraulically locked in whereas his grizzly front diff mechanically locks in, and therefore, the grizzly is the (only) superior 4x4 made.

I just took a deep breath and said "oh wow, I never realized that!"
Bout the only thing you can do with that kind of fool...
 
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Old May 23, 2011 | 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by beergut
I just took a deep breath and said "oh wow, I never realized that!"


It's sad when someone finally lets you know you did't but the best.

I was bolting on my new tires and wheels and an old guy came over and was telling me that I should have bought Big Horns because they're the best tire on the market today.
 
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