it does sit higher without me on it, but it has about 3" of sag in the rear and about 2" in the front when you get on it. it's like picking up a frog the suspension just keeps going down (16") and down. it sets about 2" higher than a stock ds with me on it, but i was riding it on the dirt befor the dunes and it handles not much different than befor, i really like them and plan to keep on tweeking then as i go[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]