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Old Apr 4, 2008 | 09:25 PM
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Im trying to remove my JM250 Chain does anyone know what the easy way to remove these chains? im going to replace stock chain to another one and i also wanted to know if anyone knows how many links it has stock or what the length would be.

I believe its a 428-XXX just wanting to know what the other 3 #s are?

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Old Apr 4, 2008 | 11:02 PM
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It's easy, just remove the master link! Spin the rear tires around til you see the Master link. Once you find the link take pliers and pop off the link clip and pull the link apart. You most likely will need to remove links to make the new chain the same size which needs to be done with a special link remover tool!
 
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Old Apr 5, 2008 | 12:59 PM
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ok i tried it yesterday but wouldnt budge ill give it a try again today. I found out i to have a 14 tooth in the front so yesterday i ordered a 12 tooth online but i had a tough time finding one cause there from such a old application honda 70-80 sprockets it is a JTF 259,12 Ill let you know the outcome to see how much more low end torque it gives me.
 
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Old Apr 5, 2008 | 04:19 PM
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do i need those pliers that will open the lock up to remove it?
 
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Old Apr 5, 2008 | 06:33 PM
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never mind i got it. Thanks
 
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Old Apr 5, 2008 | 07:01 PM
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Yes let me know how the 12 tooth works, and do they have 13 tooth also? I may want to go to 13! I'm just guessing the 12 may be too low but will be interesting to see. Will be much better for climbing which mine at 14 is not too great at!
 
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Old Apr 5, 2008 | 11:02 PM
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they have 13 tooth for sure much more easier to get a hold of. Well i want to go with 12 just beacuse there is a lot of good hills in TX and soft soft sand and its kind of difficult for the 250. Have you heard of anyone putting paddles on these Chinese ATV. Im wondering how good they would do after the 12 tooth that i get this week.
 
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Old Apr 11, 2008 | 06:30 PM
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I got the 13 tooth front sprocket - didn't like it. It was physically too small. When the chain went around it - the links of the chain cut into the shoulder on the gear. It is so small, it seemed like the chain didn't really want to follow around the gear ("O" ring chain). I can't imagine what the 12 tooth gear will be like.
You don't need a "Special" tool to cut the length of a chain; just a bench grinder and a good (right sized) round punch. Be aware of the BIG end and SMALL end of the links. Just grind the head off the rivet (where you want the chain cut) Place the ground off rivet over a 3/4" socket and drive the rivet out of the chain and into the socket with the round punch and a hammer. Easy as pie (unless you get your finger instead of the punch - owwww).
The right way to lower the gear ratio is with a 46, 48 or 50 tooth rear gear. With the 12 or 13 tooth front gear - it is just waiting for something to break - why do you think that the 12 and 13 tooth front gears are soo hard to find; nobody uses them.
 
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Old Apr 11, 2008 | 07:52 PM
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The 13 tooth is easy to find but 12 tooth was kind of difficult but i found it. I just want a little more low end not to much. Plus that is the easiest to get to the rear one seems to be more parts that need to take off and eventually i want to go to 46 or 48 in the back and maybe leave the 12 in the front but ill have to see. Why do you say 12 tooth is just wating to break? Is it that the motor cant handle it??
 
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Old Apr 12, 2008 | 09:16 AM
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It's mainly the small radius that the chain has to bend itself around and the few number of teeth that are left to "pull" the power thru. You will see when you go to actually mount the new gear what I mean. Don't cut the new chain to fit the 12 tooth gear. Cut the old chain to fit the 12 tooth, to test it out. The 13 or 14 tooth gear will require a longer chain. The gear ratios will be: 40/14=2.86; 40/13=3.08; 40/12=3.33 46/14=3.28; 46/13=3.53 50/14=3.57
What came stock on the quad was 40/17=2.35 or 40/15=2.67 It all depends upon the drivers weight. I go about 230 pounds and like the 50/14=3.57 gear ratio. My daughter goes about 130 pounds and the 46/14=3.28 seems to be fine for her.
It also depends upon the terrain that you will be riding in: Hills = lower gear ratios with more torque. Flat land = higher gear ratio with more "top end" speed.
If you start out with a lower gear ratio such as 50/14=3.57, you start out with the "longest" chain and as you play with higher gear ratios such as 48 or 46/14; you only need to cut out a couple of links of the chain which is easy to do. If you go in the opposite direction; you will need to find that "undiscovered" chain stretcher OR just keep buying new chains to fit each new set of test gears.
Ask outofline what he thinks; I think that he has tried a couple of different gear setups.
 
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