Is suzuki the only ATV with a differential in the rear and not just a straight axle??

 

every manu. makes ute's in irs honda only has one the new 680. everyone else has them from about 300cc and up

 

Which suzuki are we talking about? I know polaris has some models with a rear diff, and they call it turf mode. Some of the older kawasaki 300 bayous, also had the turf mode. I havent heard of any suzukis that do.

 

This title doesn't make it quite clear what the actual question is!

Is this an IRS vs SRA post???

Since you only mentioned Suzuki (and everybody and his dog now has IRS machines, not just Suzuki), it also sounds to me like you may be talking about "turf mode"???

 

I appreciate your reply. I'm sorry if my question is unclear. I have been looking for a manufacturer with a "rear end" that actually differentiates> meaning has spider gears that allow each wheel to turn at a different rate in a turn. In looking at parts sites most of the ones I looked at have a gear box but none have the amount of gears that allow for a differentiation. One of them had some sort of clutch mechanism in the front grear box. I may be mistaken but am under the impression that you must have either some sort of planetary gear set or spider gears to allow the two wheels to turn at a different rate. In my younger days
drag racing, those of us who couldn't afford a posi-trac rear end use to weld the spider gears together in order to make both wheels turn together. You couldn't
drive it on the street as it wouldn't turn well and would actually either break the welds or an axle. Suzukiis the only one I looked at that had spider gears as well as a ring and pinion gear. I'm assuming all their machines had this sort of drive system. Example: if you raise one side of your and put it in gear - just the raised wheel will turn ( that is if it has a normal differential). This amy be why most of the munufacturers don't use the word "differential" when they talk about the front or rear axle.

 

I appreciate your reply. I'm sorry if my question is unclear. I have been looking for a manufacturer with a "rear end" that actually differentiates> meaning has spider gears that allow each wheel to turn at a different rate in a turn. In looking at parts sites most of the ones I looked at have a gear box but none have the amount of gears that allow for a differentiation. One of them had some sort of clutch mechanism in the front grear box. I may be mistaken but am under the impression that you must have either some sort of planetary gear set or spider gears to allow the two wheels to turn at a different rate. In my younger days
drag racing, those of us who couldn't afford a posi-trac rear end use to weld the spider gears together in order to make both wheels turn together. You couldn't
drive it on the street as it wouldn't turn well and would actually either break the welds or an axle. Suzukiis the only one I looked at that had spider gears as well as a ring and pinion gear. I'm assuming all their machines had this sort of drive system. Example: if you raise one side of your and put it in gear - just the raised wheel will turn ( that is if it has a normal differential). This amy be why most of the munufacturers don't use the word "differential" when they talk about the front or rear axle.

 

I appreciate your reply. I'm sorry if my question is unclear. I have been looking for a manufacturer with a "rear end" that actually differentiates> meaning has spider gears that allow each wheel to turn at a different rate in a turn. In looking at parts sites most of the ones I looked at have a gear box but none have the amount of gears that allow for a differentiation. One of them had some sort of clutch mechanism in the front grear box. I may be mistaken but am under the impression that you must have either some sort of planetary gear set or spider gears to allow the two wheels to turn at a different rate. In my younger days
drag racing, those of us who couldn't afford a posi-trac rear end use to weld the spider gears together in order to make both wheels turn together. You couldn't
drive it on the street as it wouldn't turn well and would actually either break the welds or an axle. Suzukiis the only one I looked at that had spider gears as well as a ring and pinion gear. I'm assuming all their machines had this sort of drive system. Example: if you raise one side of your and put it in gear - just the raised wheel will turn ( that is if it has a normal differential). This amy be why most of the munufacturers don't use the word "differential" when they talk about the front or rear axle.

 

Its very rare to find a quad with the dfferential in back, its not a very ideal setip for good traction is mud or the slippery stuff. Think of a spool in back on almost all quads...both tires are solidly locked together..unless something broke.
Look for the term, turf mode, as meaning differential action in back, and the only new models I know of are Polaris.

 

Thinks again for your help. Most manuf must not want to go to the expense of
having a normal differential. My Suzuki has a differential on both ends just like a 4wd pickup and a "lock in" when you want both wheels tied together. But during normal dry driving it allows the wheels to turn at different speeds. This allows for better turning and at the same time saves the wear on the drive train and tires. In a turn on dry pavement one of the tires has to slip if they are locked together.
But even in mud if both wheels have the same amont of resistance a normal un locked differential will turn both wheels at the same speed. If one side gets traction it will let the other side spin. As a mater of fact that is what made most 3 wheelers so hard to turn. both back tires turning at the same speed with only one front wheel to make it turn when it wanted to go straight. Bottom line I was hoping to find a side by side with the drive train of my suzuki and suzuki doesn't make a side by side.

 

I believe there are several side-by-sides with open rear diffs. that have push-button lockers. Don't remember which ones though. A locked differential really isn't that bad if it's engineered correctly. Welding a differential is just a really "hack" way to get traction, and usually doesn't last very long because stock, light-duty axles ar not meant to handle that kind of stress. I have an automatic locker in the rear of my daily-driver Jeep and it drives and corners fine. When you're in the woods with a quad or side-by-side where the terrain allows easy tire slipping, I doubt you will notice any significant cornering advantages with an open diff. You will get stuck a lot and spin tires though.