I entered this thread on the Honda forum a couple of days ago. I thought I might get some additional commentary over here. I rode Dumont this last weekend with my Trinity 440EX with aftermarket carburetor. Here are some results. Beat various 450R's that were stock, end cap removed and re-jetted, Big Gun Pipe, and other after-market exhausts. Some 450R's beat me, but less than half. There was 1-450R that was beating everyone. Beat various piped Raptors, some Predators, however I did get beat by some of those with modifications unknown. I stayed close, 2-3 bike lengths with DS650's. I beat like 4 YFZ's stock and piped, but the majority of the machines destroyed me. I got beat for the first time by a Z-400 that day, three bike lengths by a modified quad(uncertain what mods). I also beat several Z-400's. Beat some Banshees. There were a ton of 450R's there which surprised me. One of the funniest things on the week-end was when a guy on a piped 450R called me out----but he would only race me if we started half-way up the hill, past the whoops. A hill without whoops, what a joke!! Needless to say I beat him, when I started at the base of the hill and he started half-way up the hill. I was thinking about purchasing a 450R, but many seemed to have difficulty navigating the whoops and their power output was not much more than the 440EX. I ride mostly track and some dunes. Any input?

 

you already got the power. i dont think its worth it to spend 7k on a quad. put some more money into yours and youll get those 450s. What you shoulda got in the first place is a 250R.