Mounting winch questions
#11
Lol.. cold day no.. that was the problem the sun was shining and made the snow soft. Time I was out I was fown to a t shirt. Ya I carry several snach blocks, shackles, extensions, tow straps, and tow ropes. One minor problem was I left my long straps in the truck from getting the truck stuck the weekend before so I was 10 feet short of being able to double up my line right of the start and getting close to a good tree.. it was just one of those days...lol.
#12
Lol.. cold day no.. that was the problem the sun was shining and made the snow soft. Time I was out I was fown to a t shirt. Ya I carry several snach blocks, shackles, extensions, tow straps, and tow ropes. One minor problem was I left my long straps in the truck from getting the truck stuck the weekend before so I was 10 feet short of being able to double up my line right of the start and getting close to a good tree.. it was just one of those days...lol.
Days like that are what causes me to carry around 200lbs of crap I'll probably never need
#13
#14
His machine is slow because its a old king quad. Those things were a power house workhorse. Its amazing what those old king quads will go through. The gf had one and it would go anyware. Even when we broke axle shafts it would still work its way out easily.
You know the rule... if you dont pack it thats the day you will need it. You have quite the setup.
You know the rule... if you dont pack it thats the day you will need it. You have quite the setup.
#15
Yeah, it's heavy. I think it's close to 900lbs. I couldn't believe how fast the weight went up. But I beefed the engine up too and it was pretty quick before I added all the weight.
It's been a few years, but from memory, I added a 10.5:1 Arias piston and bored it out to 69.5mm and I think it has a massive 76mm stroke, so just that 1mm overbore added a lot of cc's. I ported the head, redesigned the exhaust, installed a 250s quadsport cam, stiffer valve springs, and put a bigger carb on with clampon filter. Probably some other stuff I can't remember. It was a fun project!
But even with all the power and no extra weight, it just wasn't designed for speed. The front shocks only have a couple inches of travel and the back is that goofy single wishbone setup where the camber is all over the place. I have to lift my foot a mile to shift gears and all those gears inside churning that oil really start to slow it down the faster I go. Even in high range, it will only go 45-50. Maybe 55 at redline, idk. It will feel faster than it is.
It's designed to go slow. I always said, "it's the most fun you will ever have at 1 mph!"
#16
Here's part of the reason it's so heavy. I think that's 50lbs of lead.
I got the idea when my friend had his 660 raptor over here. I couldn't keep the front wheels on the ground to steer, so I added that lead. It helped... some
There's probably close to 100lbs of stainless plate under it.
One time I was riding and ran over a tree that broke and rammed itself into the front a-arm. I couldn't lift the machine off the tree and I couldn't move. I had to get my truck to pull it off. So then came 100lbs of steel lol
Here I am next to a mudpro
They weigh about the same. They go about the same speed too, but the 700 gets there quicker lol
The mudpro will run over just about anything being so high off the ground, but not so good for climbing hills and off-camber situations. Personally, I like the low center of gravity the king has. There isn't a lot of mud in the mountains around here to justify being up so high, especially in light of all the hills. But the mudpro is a beast and a lot sportier and nimble than you'd expect.
I got the idea when my friend had his 660 raptor over here. I couldn't keep the front wheels on the ground to steer, so I added that lead. It helped... some
There's probably close to 100lbs of stainless plate under it.
One time I was riding and ran over a tree that broke and rammed itself into the front a-arm. I couldn't lift the machine off the tree and I couldn't move. I had to get my truck to pull it off. So then came 100lbs of steel lol
Here I am next to a mudpro
They weigh about the same. They go about the same speed too, but the 700 gets there quicker lol
The mudpro will run over just about anything being so high off the ground, but not so good for climbing hills and off-camber situations. Personally, I like the low center of gravity the king has. There isn't a lot of mud in the mountains around here to justify being up so high, especially in light of all the hills. But the mudpro is a beast and a lot sportier and nimble than you'd expect.
#17
45mph is faster than you'll ever need to go for trail riding. I doubt you would want to try to go any faster if you could. I very seldom go even that fast on my Griz and it will top 60 mph. Most of the time 30-35 mph is top speed. I have opened it up a few times and its really sketchy at high speeds, front end gets squirrelly. I basically just wont do it anymore, full throttle is only for short bursts like climbing a steep hill or getting through some mud. I was thinking, what happens if I blow a tire at this speed or simply hit a bump too hard. The thought of having a 650 lb machine roll over on top of me at high speed didn't sound too good.
#18
45mph is faster than you'll ever need to go for trail riding. I doubt you would want to try to go any faster if you could. I very seldom go even that fast on my Griz and it will top 60 mph. Most of the time 30-35 mph is top speed. I have opened it up a few times and its really sketchy at high speeds, front end gets squirrelly. I basically just wont do it anymore, full throttle is only for short bursts like climbing a steep hill or getting through some mud. I was thinking, what happens if I blow a tire at this speed or simply hit a bump too hard. The thought of having a 650 lb machine roll over on top of me at high speed didn't sound too good.
#19
45mph is faster than you'll ever need to go for trail riding. I doubt you would want to try to go any faster if you could. I very seldom go even that fast on my Griz and it will top 60 mph. Most of the time 30-35 mph is top speed. I have opened it up a few times and its really sketchy at high speeds, front end gets squirrelly. I basically just wont do it anymore, full throttle is only for short bursts like climbing a steep hill or getting through some mud. I was thinking, what happens if I blow a tire at this speed or simply hit a bump too hard. The thought of having a 650 lb machine roll over on top of me at high speed didn't sound too good.
Some of those bigger 4x4 quads have the caster backwards so it gets squirrelly. I almost killed myself on a 700KQ when the handlebars locked and I couldn't move them, then when I finally got them free, they went all the way to full lock in the other direction. That kept repeating until I finally got the beast to slow down enough. I gave it back to my friend and never rode it again.
The trails here have been cleared and maintained by a bulldozer, so I can hit 60 pretty easy with a sport. I had a spot set up at the house where I'd drag race against the clock to compare engine mods and such. I think it was around 350 ft and I could get darn close to 60 in that stretch. Certainly within 500ft, which isn't much on a 20 mile trail.
But yeah, when you get that fast on a trail on the edge of a mountain, it gets hair-raising! That's why I like it But you have to have the right machine!
#20
I'd be amazed if someone blew a tire and it resulted in catastrophe. I think there is a bigger worry getting hit by falling camels
Tires are tough, especially the 6 ply varieties on the bigger quads.
Here is a 2 ply stock tire with a stick in it.
I didn't have any trouble riding home. Actually, once up to speed, the tire doesn't need air. It doesn't take much to hold up a quad. I usually run between 1 and 3 psi on my sports and 5-10 on my ute (due to weight).
I couldn't count all the flat tires I've driven on. A couple came off the rim! It's a pain in the butt trying to get a bead to set with a hand pump!
I've blown a few tires on my truck. They blow because they get too hot on the interstate at 80mph for 200 miles. I try to keep them aired up to the max so the rubber doesn't flex and heat up. But an atv just isn't heavy enough or fast enough for long enough. As long as the tires aren't rotted, I wouldn't worry about it. I'm much more concerned with landing a jump wrong or slamming a rock and bending my rim. I've never sweated bullets due to a tire.
Tires are tough, especially the 6 ply varieties on the bigger quads.
Here is a 2 ply stock tire with a stick in it.
I didn't have any trouble riding home. Actually, once up to speed, the tire doesn't need air. It doesn't take much to hold up a quad. I usually run between 1 and 3 psi on my sports and 5-10 on my ute (due to weight).
I couldn't count all the flat tires I've driven on. A couple came off the rim! It's a pain in the butt trying to get a bead to set with a hand pump!
I've blown a few tires on my truck. They blow because they get too hot on the interstate at 80mph for 200 miles. I try to keep them aired up to the max so the rubber doesn't flex and heat up. But an atv just isn't heavy enough or fast enough for long enough. As long as the tires aren't rotted, I wouldn't worry about it. I'm much more concerned with landing a jump wrong or slamming a rock and bending my rim. I've never sweated bullets due to a tire.