Folks I gotta set the record straight on a couple of items. The Raptor is in an all new, light-weight chassis (aluminum subframe and al. upper A-arms and knuckles)with excellent balance and low CG. The 660R engine shares some basic engineering with the XVZ660 motorcycle but has been re-engineered for higher RPM, ATV application. A YZ type transmission and shifting mech., dry sump, YZ type rear suspension (9inches front and back)20 clicks adjustability comp. and rebnd. The dry weight is 398lbs. on the pre-production units (almost 100lbs. lighter than a DS). The main handling target for the bike was an EX which is (was) the best handling in class but with the additional engine power, it is positioned to be in a class of its own. The thing comes stock with radial tires and reverse gear. Rev limiter is 9000rpm and it has a bottom end that will drain your eyeballs. The bike has been in the works for two years and has undergone extensive testing. No one builds 'junk' any more and you got some great choices ahead with all the new models coming out in the sport category. Reality check... at this moment in time there is not a better handling, faster, or bigger bang-for-the-buck ATV available, period. That might change tomorrow but until then better shut-up and ride... R

 

Restless, Did you actually ride this thing, or are your statements just opinion. I hope what you said is true, because i have had one on order since the day they hit the yamaha website, and i can't wait to get it.

 

are you nuts

 

Yes, I have ridden the Raptor, and you will find that all my comments are accurate, in due time..R

 

I'm impressed with the 660 but i'll wait for honda. I've never felt like i've losy money with honda. Honda will compensate for the 660 just like their reply (finally) with the 400. Honda will match the 660 with power but inprove the suspension more. Honda has always went after comfort more than hp. They all have a good thing going with more power if we can keep the kids that are beginners away. they'll have lawsuits just like 3 wheelers had if to many get injured.

 

Wow pretty bold statement about a quad that hasn't been released! I do believe the Yamaha will be very fast, espcially in the dunes or riding on logging roads. HOWEVER, we will have to wait & see how she handles in the woods. The Raptor could be a little narrow, thus making her a little tippy but again that will depend on the suspension. A aluminum sub frames is nice, IF it can take the abuse!

Soon the Raptor will be released & the DS-650 will be de-throned as the fastest ATV!

 

After trusting Yamaha and buying a Grizzly last year (I sold it 2 months ago) I'll NEVER trust Yamaha again. During my ownership with the Grizzly I got to see what Yamaha's customer service was like (it doesn't exist!, they don't don't give a cr*p what their customers think!). I've owned Hondas and dealt with Honda myself, know wonder they're the best. I don't care what the Raptor ends up being, I've driven the Banshee and Warrior and I'll be any more impressed.

 

It's a 660 against a 400 it would be a slaughter no matter how you look at it.

 

Restless,
Please tell us where and with whom you rode a Raptor. I spoke with CT Racing and they hadn't gotten to ride it yet. I gotta know how you did it. Did you just get back from New Zealand or Japan? I'm not calling you a liar bro, in fact, I believe you, really. Please back up your claim with facts. Please respond.

 

Tim,
Please explain how the Raptor will slaughter the 400. How and under what type of riding? Maybe you know something we do not. I look forward to your reply, Thanks.