id go with a 400ex. does everything well and reliability of a 4 stroke. add a pipe, jets, and filter if ya get bored. my roommate has a 1986 250r, he works on it alot. one of my other friends has a 1998 400ex, he rides it alot.

 

Go with the new 450's...
im sure once youll test drive one of the new 450's you will forget about the 400ex...

 

if you DO decide to go with a new 450, most people say that the 450R is a better trail bike...The YFZ is no trail bike...You'd probably prefer the Honda because it's better suited for bigger/taller people...You'd feel cramped on a YFZ

 

in his pics page it says hes gettin his permit soon. so that means he's prolly 15. u think a 15 year old can afford a yfz450 or a 450r?

 

The 250r isn't much without some mods. Get the 400ex for the reliabilty and the power.

 

yes i am getting my permet soon and no i would never be able to afford one of the new 450s that is just a dream for now.mom and dad wont contribute anything to the new wheeler fund which really sucks but o well. i am looking on spending 2500 to 3000. i dont mind working on a 250r if i need to im always into to learning new things about engines and getting better at that kind of stuff.

 

Well i have 4 or 5 2-strokes, and the rest 4. Im usually working on the 4-strokes more[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]. If you know what your doing with a 2-stroke and dont cut corners they will last for a while. I have gone 3 years on the same top end on some of my 2-strokes and thats with running it hard. Now, a 250R last longer than any other 2-stroke quad out there.

 

lol you work on the 4 strokes more??

thats sad...ive never had a major problem with any of my bikes, and ive been riding off an on for 6 years.
that is...no major problems besides what i have done myself..(wrecks)

 

Yeah wrecks mostly but things like bent valves, broke timing chains, clutches and when a Polaris comes in the shop to be worked on my god! look out. Almost everything on them Polaris quads are junk. Anyways I was being sarcastic, and saying that you wont have to work on 2-strokes that much if you know what your doing and how to tune an engine.

 

Yeah, 2 strokes can run a long time if you're good to them, and they can last FOREVER if you're ****...my uncle has a 250R that he bought in 88...He totally did it out for dragging..It stands as the oldest quad to date that can waste me on my YFZ lol