jee its not obvious who has a nerf bar stuck in there a$$ on this thread. and well maybe its because they wanted to enclude everyone in the lower classes, i dont no so your more updated on the rules than me. gota give you that one, i guess i have been two busy actually working on my quad project than reading articles. dont want to start flames but if someone has to make a point by trying to make an idiot out of the other person its obviously not that big of a point. anyways back to discussion where were we?