this is a dumb question:
Mar 22, 2005 | 07:28 PM
#31
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this is a dumb question:
yea sorry iwannaride2, i guess i lost my mind for a day, ITS BACK NOW!
robnhouston came down on me i guess, really for why i dont know, shesh man lighten up, i guess i was mistaken, but as i said being the bigger man i dont want to start a world war three, argueing on a ATV forum, the sport is supposed to be FUN, not hostile.!
v581
robnhouston came down on me i guess, really for why i dont know, shesh man lighten up, i guess i was mistaken, but as i said being the bigger man i dont want to start a world war three, argueing on a ATV forum, the sport is supposed to be FUN, not hostile.!
v581
Mar 23, 2005 | 11:12 AM
#32
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this is a dumb question:
Oh brother.....
v581, all you had to do was admit to a mistake and it's over. But no you went into how your RM does this and that. When I was 14 and riding the yamaha I knew how the gear ratios worked because I changed them on that bike. Gee you know 30 years later the same principal holds true. Just like 2+2=4. No matter how old it gets that will stay the same.
flynhi250r, you posted..."Now he is incorrect on the rear sprocket
Larger rear = lower final drive ratio or better acceleration
Smaller rear = higher drive ratio or higher top end"
I read that as your now saying he was incorrect in the rear statement. Which if you reread my original reply you'll see that was the only thing I and the others were referring to. You gentlemen should really read ALL of the posts BEFORE you post something. Also remember what YOU posted before saying otherwise. As the the "hostile" comment 250r, maybe you should reread again. I take great care in not attacking anyone unless they swing first. Actually there are only 2 people here that I've had a run it with over the past several years. I was sad to see Kyle showing up here, it was only a matter of time. I was never hostile at Kyle until he made the comment to me. If you are refering to my "stick it on your CAD" comment well that was a literal comment. I know Kyle has access to a CAD program so the ratios can be illustrated there. Do you know what a CAD program is Jason? Might I ask your age? And Jason... "Finally being older dosn't make you wiser it just makes you older" I never said I was wiser did I. So if being older just makes you older, then what does being younger make you?? [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]
Oh and Kyle, how come I can post during the day? Well I do have time during the day to freely rome the Internet. Part of that time I come here to offer help if I can. If I can't offer some help then I will keep my mouth shut. Best to let other think you don't know what your talking about...then open your mouth and prove it.... Don't you agree....now?
Kyle this is what got me off...."listen up robnhouston- i have had just about enough of you, being you never contribute, and always have some type of snyde remark, both your rancher and old kq are both shaft drive bikes, NO GEARING CHANGES THERE...so why are you here?" Well this and the other comments.
And now I just noticed you edited your long rant to me and took out all your nasty comments. Well that's why I listed them in my posts. To late dude, people saw it already.
Hope you get to feeling better.
v581, all you had to do was admit to a mistake and it's over. But no you went into how your RM does this and that. When I was 14 and riding the yamaha I knew how the gear ratios worked because I changed them on that bike. Gee you know 30 years later the same principal holds true. Just like 2+2=4. No matter how old it gets that will stay the same.
flynhi250r, you posted..."Now he is incorrect on the rear sprocket
Larger rear = lower final drive ratio or better acceleration
Smaller rear = higher drive ratio or higher top end"
I read that as your now saying he was incorrect in the rear statement. Which if you reread my original reply you'll see that was the only thing I and the others were referring to. You gentlemen should really read ALL of the posts BEFORE you post something. Also remember what YOU posted before saying otherwise. As the the "hostile" comment 250r, maybe you should reread again. I take great care in not attacking anyone unless they swing first. Actually there are only 2 people here that I've had a run it with over the past several years. I was sad to see Kyle showing up here, it was only a matter of time. I was never hostile at Kyle until he made the comment to me. If you are refering to my "stick it on your CAD" comment well that was a literal comment. I know Kyle has access to a CAD program so the ratios can be illustrated there. Do you know what a CAD program is Jason? Might I ask your age? And Jason... "Finally being older dosn't make you wiser it just makes you older" I never said I was wiser did I. So if being older just makes you older, then what does being younger make you?? [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]
Oh and Kyle, how come I can post during the day? Well I do have time during the day to freely rome the Internet. Part of that time I come here to offer help if I can. If I can't offer some help then I will keep my mouth shut. Best to let other think you don't know what your talking about...then open your mouth and prove it.... Don't you agree....now?
Kyle this is what got me off...."listen up robnhouston- i have had just about enough of you, being you never contribute, and always have some type of snyde remark, both your rancher and old kq are both shaft drive bikes, NO GEARING CHANGES THERE...so why are you here?" Well this and the other comments.
And now I just noticed you edited your long rant to me and took out all your nasty comments. Well that's why I listed them in my posts. To late dude, people saw it already.
Hope you get to feeling better.
Mar 23, 2005 | 12:09 PM
#33
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this is a dumb question:
I was refering to was the fact that I did not fully investigate what V581 had posted. I made an assumption that turned out to be incorrect. As for my age I'm 35, I put my wife through college working as a machinist and programmer(SolidWorks). We manufacture gears and pinions weighing over 100,000 lbs, and over 240" in diameter. I worked with gear shapers, gear hobbs and Vertical 7 axis lathes so yes I know what a CAD program is. My wife graduated college a few years ago. She is putting me through college now, and I have recently been accepted into a graduate program. If you have any other questions about my life I'll be happy to answer them. Hell I'll even take pictures if it will make you happy. Probably make you jealous but I have no control over that.
Mar 23, 2005 | 12:09 PM
#34
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this is a dumb question:
with all that said and done, i admitted to being wrong, which is a rare thing for me. and im not trying to brag or anything, but i get multiple e-mails a day with questions on this that and the other thing, so i try to answer them to the best of my ability, this time i guess i just spazed, or didnt think, mabey because im sick, who knows, but people are entitled to mistakes, and for gods sake its the INTERNET. apparently if people saw me full of it, then they wouldnt ask me 1000s of questions, or topics directed to myself( again not bragging) just stateing the FACTS. I got a offer from a new quad magizine starting out that wanted me to write a few articles for them. The editors of the new magizine asked for me to NOT tell the name of the new issue, but all i can say is TWM ( Transworld Motocross) is there publisher, again people wouldnt ask for my advice if i was full of myself. out of the 1000 people i have helped, i made a screw up, prolly because im sick, and not thinking the clearest.
CADD- yes i do have access to it, at work, and right on my home computer, i imputed my vinson frame, into the program, did a analisys of it, and found the weak points, and then gusseted the frame, well guess what NO more frame breakages.
HERES THE REAL REASON I DIDNT POST THE CAD DRAWING, in order to open a drawing file or .dwg you must have autocad, and also be useing the same standards that it was designed in, i dont know what you know about the program, but where i work we have standards, which some people dont like to work with, and makes a huge hassle for myself and others, to convert everything, to 1. make it viewable, and 2. make it able to be plotted.
i do think you were the one who came in here, with your comments, because you posted after i did, i mean come on man, a mistake, you take it as if there is some big disaster, let the thing fly, and calm down. i just got confused, having a fever does that to you.......
here is what i wrote:
...."listen up robnhouston- i have had just about enough of you, being you never contribute, and always have some type of snyde remark, both your rancher and old kq are both shaft drive bikes, NO GEARING CHANGES THERE...so why are you here?"
well im sorry for one part, but its true just like the other time you have to have some remark. in all the posts i made 1 (one) uno error EVER, the other time that you said i was full of it, well i just dont give a hoot if you belive me or not, about towing things, thats what happend, and thats what im sticking by the TRUTH, so unless you were at my home on december 25, 2003 at 6:30 pm in a blizzard, then you have not the slighest clue as to what went on, btw that night we went out riding on the roads just like we always do, I have a REALLY good memory. because i even remember throwing a chain on my rear left tire ( had 4 chains on). the car i towed sideways was my brothers friends 1980's 928, that the steering rack was out so it was impossible to move the car into the garage to work on it, and a car/ truck would be to large to fit between the car, and the side of the driveway, the only option was the atv, I think part of that is jelousy that my vinson could dont that and the all mighty king cant.....because i remember you whineing about that i couldnt out pull a stock king quad, i mean come on give me a break.....my vinson has to weigh at least 800lbs, not counting me on it, coupled with 589s, locker, pipe, and cam( cam is for more low end), i wouldnt even break a sweat towing the old king quad......i rode a OLD kq and those things are doggy, i rode a NEW KQ, and cant justifying spending 7000$ on something that is only marginally faster then the vinson, and my vinson can go 10x more places then the kq, plus its nice i even have reverse, with 100% engine power.
Rob i remember a few things you said, so before you try and say im a bad person, doing things wrong, and such, just think what you have written in the past....
come on people one little blunder while sick, the PEOPLE on this forum know how helpful i am when asked, go over to the suzuki side, and they are going to tell you a bit about me.
let me quote someone. 4xzuki - i hope you dont mind, because you really are a good man when you say this.
I don't "know" you FDA, but if 581 vouches for you........
Note to Forum: 581 might be a little hot-headed from time to time, but it's passion. The guy is helpful-above and beyond what most are. I've got just as much "profanity ammo" as he does, but being that I've got kids, have learned to control it (most of the time). But if I got fu...screwed like these two cats did-I'd seriously be wanting to fuc.....er......mess a mtuha-fu....er..... (what other word subs for that?) up.
Rob you dont know what goes on with me, so before you judge me think twice, thats all im asking please.
and btw im not trying to say im the best, or the greatest at anything, i know there are people better then me, but the only reason im here is to help people, i rarely ask a question.....its my friends with a vast array of quads, that bring there bikes to me for any problems they have, mainly because 1. they can trust me. and 2.i do a good job at what needs to get done.
Have a good one ROB.
v581
CADD- yes i do have access to it, at work, and right on my home computer, i imputed my vinson frame, into the program, did a analisys of it, and found the weak points, and then gusseted the frame, well guess what NO more frame breakages.
HERES THE REAL REASON I DIDNT POST THE CAD DRAWING, in order to open a drawing file or .dwg you must have autocad, and also be useing the same standards that it was designed in, i dont know what you know about the program, but where i work we have standards, which some people dont like to work with, and makes a huge hassle for myself and others, to convert everything, to 1. make it viewable, and 2. make it able to be plotted.
i do think you were the one who came in here, with your comments, because you posted after i did, i mean come on man, a mistake, you take it as if there is some big disaster, let the thing fly, and calm down. i just got confused, having a fever does that to you.......
here is what i wrote:
...."listen up robnhouston- i have had just about enough of you, being you never contribute, and always have some type of snyde remark, both your rancher and old kq are both shaft drive bikes, NO GEARING CHANGES THERE...so why are you here?"
well im sorry for one part, but its true just like the other time you have to have some remark. in all the posts i made 1 (one) uno error EVER, the other time that you said i was full of it, well i just dont give a hoot if you belive me or not, about towing things, thats what happend, and thats what im sticking by the TRUTH, so unless you were at my home on december 25, 2003 at 6:30 pm in a blizzard, then you have not the slighest clue as to what went on, btw that night we went out riding on the roads just like we always do, I have a REALLY good memory. because i even remember throwing a chain on my rear left tire ( had 4 chains on). the car i towed sideways was my brothers friends 1980's 928, that the steering rack was out so it was impossible to move the car into the garage to work on it, and a car/ truck would be to large to fit between the car, and the side of the driveway, the only option was the atv, I think part of that is jelousy that my vinson could dont that and the all mighty king cant.....because i remember you whineing about that i couldnt out pull a stock king quad, i mean come on give me a break.....my vinson has to weigh at least 800lbs, not counting me on it, coupled with 589s, locker, pipe, and cam( cam is for more low end), i wouldnt even break a sweat towing the old king quad......i rode a OLD kq and those things are doggy, i rode a NEW KQ, and cant justifying spending 7000$ on something that is only marginally faster then the vinson, and my vinson can go 10x more places then the kq, plus its nice i even have reverse, with 100% engine power.
Rob i remember a few things you said, so before you try and say im a bad person, doing things wrong, and such, just think what you have written in the past....
come on people one little blunder while sick, the PEOPLE on this forum know how helpful i am when asked, go over to the suzuki side, and they are going to tell you a bit about me.
let me quote someone. 4xzuki - i hope you dont mind, because you really are a good man when you say this.
I don't "know" you FDA, but if 581 vouches for you........
Note to Forum: 581 might be a little hot-headed from time to time, but it's passion. The guy is helpful-above and beyond what most are. I've got just as much "profanity ammo" as he does, but being that I've got kids, have learned to control it (most of the time). But if I got fu...screwed like these two cats did-I'd seriously be wanting to fuc.....er......mess a mtuha-fu....er..... (what other word subs for that?) up.
Rob you dont know what goes on with me, so before you judge me think twice, thats all im asking please.
and btw im not trying to say im the best, or the greatest at anything, i know there are people better then me, but the only reason im here is to help people, i rarely ask a question.....its my friends with a vast array of quads, that bring there bikes to me for any problems they have, mainly because 1. they can trust me. and 2.i do a good job at what needs to get done.
Have a good one ROB.
v581
Mar 23, 2005 | 01:06 PM
#35
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this is a dumb question:
[i]CADD- yes i do have access to it, at work, and right on my home computer, i imputed my vinson frame, into the program, did a analisys of it, and found the weak points, and then gusseted the frame, well guess what NO more frame breakages.
HERES THE REAL REASON I DIDNT POST THE CAD DRAWING, in order to open a drawing file or .dwg you must have autocad, and also be useing the same standards that it was designed in, i dont know what you know about the program, but where i work we have standards, which some people dont like to work with, and makes a huge hassle for myself and others, to convert everything, to 1. make it viewable, and 2. make it able to be plotted.
HERES THE REAL REASON I DIDNT POST THE CAD DRAWING, in order to open a drawing file or .dwg you must have autocad, and also be useing the same standards that it was designed in, i dont know what you know about the program, but where i work we have standards, which some people dont like to work with, and makes a huge hassle for myself and others, to convert everything, to 1. make it viewable, and 2. make it able to be plotted.
Mar 23, 2005 | 03:29 PM
#37
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this is a dumb question:
Oh Klye don't get all mushy on me. I thin kyou mentioned 15 times (hehe maybe 3-4) they you were sick and not thinking straight. Now you might be writing for a new ATV mag? Which one. Oh and since I never got the old video you were putting together please send it to me now....rob_n_houston@yahoo.com. Now don't tell me you don't have it anymore. Being an IT guy and all you should have backups. I do because I'm an IT guy. Jealous of you ATV. Hardly. Totally happy with my quads. Believe me If I wanted I could have any quad I choose. I don't need a 700cc quad so I didn't buy one. I bought the KQ because it should last me 15-20 years. It's a time tested platform. The rancher I bought used because of the deal I got and it's a "Honda". Although I'd rather have another KQ than the rancher to be honest. better value. All hondas are basically the same. Plus KQ or not I'll never pay 6-7k for an ATV. They're just not worth the money. Heck I can buy a very nice used jeep or truck for 7k. Street legal to!!
Regarding the old thread about a KQ pulling a vinson. Look back and reread the post. I never said that. The discussion turned to traction...and how a lesser powered machine could pull a higher powered machine if it got more traction.
And Kyle...I'm not judging you. A bit overboard don't you think? I meerly corrected you as others did. Then recorrected you when you swore you were right and we were wrong. Then the BS about your RM to back up your statement.
Hey Kyle..you check out my other post? helping out people by changing their own tires!!! I'm just like you!!
250r - Jason - Dude as your assumption turned out to be incorrect then 581 was also incorrect. Get it? Your splitting hairs here. Your buds with Kyle then that's cool, but even my buds make mistakes and we call each other on them. I think it's great your going back to school. Lucky to have a spouse willing and able to do that. It'll pay off for you in the long run believe me. And hey we always like pictures (videos if you have them.....Kyle). And Jason, if you're really 35 years old then you're only 10 years younger than me!!! Funny huh. But to make matters worse your about twice the age as Kyle!!! So your real old to him but I'm not that much older than you. Funny that old comment. 40 is right around the corner!!
And as far as the Cad files go. A real simple way to convert the screen to a jpg is to hit the "Print Screen" key, then paste into a word doc, paint, etc, then save as a jpg.
So next time you go off a little I'm going to ask if your feeling well... [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]
BTW gentlemen I'm having a blast today!! Hey yall should have seen my ATV's this past weekend. We had them dressed up as floats and they were in a parade. The KQ pulled a 5x12 trailer (float) in the parade.
Regarding the old thread about a KQ pulling a vinson. Look back and reread the post. I never said that. The discussion turned to traction...and how a lesser powered machine could pull a higher powered machine if it got more traction.
And Kyle...I'm not judging you. A bit overboard don't you think? I meerly corrected you as others did. Then recorrected you when you swore you were right and we were wrong. Then the BS about your RM to back up your statement.
Hey Kyle..you check out my other post? helping out people by changing their own tires!!! I'm just like you!!
250r - Jason - Dude as your assumption turned out to be incorrect then 581 was also incorrect. Get it? Your splitting hairs here. Your buds with Kyle then that's cool, but even my buds make mistakes and we call each other on them. I think it's great your going back to school. Lucky to have a spouse willing and able to do that. It'll pay off for you in the long run believe me. And hey we always like pictures (videos if you have them.....Kyle). And Jason, if you're really 35 years old then you're only 10 years younger than me!!! Funny huh. But to make matters worse your about twice the age as Kyle!!! So your real old to him but I'm not that much older than you. Funny that old comment. 40 is right around the corner!!
And as far as the Cad files go. A real simple way to convert the screen to a jpg is to hit the "Print Screen" key, then paste into a word doc, paint, etc, then save as a jpg.
So next time you go off a little I'm going to ask if your feeling well... [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]
BTW gentlemen I'm having a blast today!! Hey yall should have seen my ATV's this past weekend. We had them dressed up as floats and they were in a parade. The KQ pulled a 5x12 trailer (float) in the parade.
Mar 23, 2005 | 05:23 PM
#38
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this is a dumb question:
Originally posted by: Vinson581
whats that supposed to mean buddy...?
if the rear has a lower gear ratio you are going to have a better acceleration....plain and simple.
there is no way you are telling me by putting on smaller gearing is going to improve top end.
a 15/46 gear ratio and a 13/43 gear ratio say, numbers are for example ONLY. the 13/43 is going to be lower, and the 15/46 will be higher, more top end.
1 tooth in the frount = 3 in the rear, so if you drop 1 in the frount it equals 3 in the rear.
btw even know how to use cadd, smarty pant.
v581
whats that supposed to mean buddy...?
if the rear has a lower gear ratio you are going to have a better acceleration....plain and simple.
there is no way you are telling me by putting on smaller gearing is going to improve top end.
a 15/46 gear ratio and a 13/43 gear ratio say, numbers are for example ONLY. the 13/43 is going to be lower, and the 15/46 will be higher, more top end.
1 tooth in the frount = 3 in the rear, so if you drop 1 in the frount it equals 3 in the rear.
btw even know how to use cadd, smarty pant.
v581
Mar 23, 2005 | 05:25 PM
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this is a dumb question:
Originally posted by: mattonln
you are a RETARD! you've mad yourself look stupid twice! think about it... the bigger the rear, the more the front has to turn to make the rear complete a rotation therefore giving you a higher numbered gear ratio and giving you less top speed and faster acceleration...
Originally posted by: Vinson581
whats that supposed to mean buddy...?
if the rear has a lower gear ratio you are going to have a better acceleration....plain and simple.
there is no way you are telling me by putting on smaller gearing is going to improve top end.
a 15/46 gear ratio and a 13/43 gear ratio say, numbers are for example ONLY. the 13/43 is going to be lower, and the 15/46 will be higher, more top end.
1 tooth in the frount = 3 in the rear, so if you drop 1 in the frount it equals 3 in the rear.
btw even know how to use cadd, smarty pant.
v581
whats that supposed to mean buddy...?
if the rear has a lower gear ratio you are going to have a better acceleration....plain and simple.
there is no way you are telling me by putting on smaller gearing is going to improve top end.
a 15/46 gear ratio and a 13/43 gear ratio say, numbers are for example ONLY. the 13/43 is going to be lower, and the 15/46 will be higher, more top end.
1 tooth in the frount = 3 in the rear, so if you drop 1 in the frount it equals 3 in the rear.
btw even know how to use cadd, smarty pant.
v581
yea, he's already appologized for that.
it's alright, i forgive ya. just when your not sure what your talking about, please, don't be so assertive. that's the only problem i have.
Mar 23, 2005 | 06:23 PM
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this is a dumb question:
well for hecks sake i have said im sorry, i cant belive you people.
all the things i help everyone with, and i make one freaking mistake because im sick, that goes to show the type of people here. and there really only are a handful who know whats going on...
hate me, think im a azz, say what you will, but when it comes down to the final questions, it always seems i have a solution.
KYLE
all the things i help everyone with, and i make one freaking mistake because im sick, that goes to show the type of people here. and there really only are a handful who know whats going on...
hate me, think im a azz, say what you will, but when it comes down to the final questions, it always seems i have a solution.
KYLE