im savin up for a z400 or 400ex, ive heard the z400 is alot better machine, is that true, how fast a z400 go? and does it have better accelaration? oh yeah and does a z have belts you have to worry about in it, thanks[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]

 

The z is a superior machine. More power and better handling. They both have reverse and electric start and cost the same. So either one you buy you'll enjoy. If you want the Honda buy the Honda.

 

i think i'll go with the z, thanks man

 

pretty sure that only the Z400 has reverse...

 

no the new 05 400ex has a reverse but now its 11 lb's heavier

 

i dont know about the 05's because of their different gearing, but stock for stock the 400ex will out accelerate the z everytime.... equal riders of course.

z is a great machine though. i just wanted that extra bit of torque for trail riding, that's why i went with the ex.

 

alright, thanks

 

The Z is a tad better than a 400EX but I think people over rate them. Don't buy a Z thinking your going to whip every 400EX cause it just don't happen................... [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-cool.gif[/img]

 

I own both, so you aren't going to get any brand loyalty BS from me. The Z is an EX with slightly improved suspension and handling, a way lighter feel, and a much more modern and powerfull engine. The Z is by far the best all-around machine out there.

I do prefer the EX for very slow, semi-technical trails. You can stick the EX in low gear, and idle through the rough stuff. The Z likes to rev, and takes a lot more clutch work in these situations. I pick the Z for riding absolutely everywhere else.

One would be an absolute fool to pay the same MSRP for the EX (even with reverse) as the Z!