Hill climbing (not hillshooting)
#21
04-27-2005, 10:22 PM
#22
04-28-2005, 02:41 AM
Hill climbing (not hillshooting)
Originally posted by: iwannaride2
red goblin dont worry too much about your body position...your instinct will place you just about where you need to be and you will get much better in time...
red goblin dont worry too much about your body position...your instinct will place you just about where you need to be and you will get much better in time...
Look at the hills I climb. If I weren't leaning forward, I would be flipping it over backwards![img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif[/img]
#23
04-28-2005, 09:17 AM
#24
04-28-2005, 09:57 AM
Hill climbing (not hillshooting)
Originally posted by: iwannaride2
not tryin to start somin' but i didn't say he doesn't need to lean forward...i said his body and insticts will move his body where it needs to be....i never had anyone to tell me how to hillclimb i just leaned forward instinctively....
not tryin to start somin' but i didn't say he doesn't need to lean forward...i said his body and insticts will move his body where it needs to be....i never had anyone to tell me how to hillclimb i just leaned forward instinctively....
As for leaning forward, the only time I do is when Im not going to make it or on the verge of not making it. On a sporty, if you lean forward you lose traction. You can sit down on a 90 degree incline, it's physics man, your momentum will make you stick. For a while anyways, LOL. Look at dirtbike hill climbs, they don't lean forward[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]
#25
04-28-2005, 10:43 AM
Hill climbing (not hillshooting)
Hello Guys, I love to hill climb. When we are climbing we all have sports bike of course a big advantage. If you stop on the hill and it is in gear it will set there with some help but will not free wheel. On our extremely big hills we have catchers they line up the hill and if u start to have trouble you kill your motor as you jump off and they will jump in and grab your bike so it doesn't roll over. Then we all will work on getting the bike off the hill. Be very careful climb extremely steep hills on a utility bike because you have to hold on to the brakes when you get stuck because it will free wheel right back down the hill.
#26
04-28-2005, 12:51 PM
Hill climbing (not hillshooting)
Originally posted by: motox26
You can sit down on a 90 degree incline, it's physics man, your momentum will make you stick. For a while anyways, LOL. Look at dirtbike hill climbs, they don't lean forward[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]
Originally posted by: iwannaride2
not tryin to start somin' but i didn't say he doesn't need to lean forward...i said his body and insticts will move his body where it needs to be....i never had anyone to tell me how to hillclimb i just leaned forward instinctively....
not tryin to start somin' but i didn't say he doesn't need to lean forward...i said his body and insticts will move his body where it needs to be....i never had anyone to tell me how to hillclimb i just leaned forward instinctively....
You can sit down on a 90 degree incline, it's physics man, your momentum will make you stick. For a while anyways, LOL. Look at dirtbike hill climbs, they don't lean forward[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]
And if you were to sit down on a 90 degree incline???? Come on bro. You don't really expect me to believe that do you??[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif[/img]
Remember, you are going to be under power when going up these things.
As far as some of the dirtbikes who are professional hill climbers (and ATVs), a lot of them have extended swingarms. Why do you think this is?? To keep it from flipping over backwards!
As far as instinct, you'd be surprized at how many people don't have this "instinct". I also challenge you that instinct will not cause you to stand up and place your upper torso clear over the handlebars for long steep hillclimbs!. Took me quite a while to get that part down.
For shorter hills, or ones that are not as steep, you probably CAN get away with not re-positioning your body. But then again, maybe what you call a hillclimb, and what I call a hillclimb are two differen't things. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]
#27
04-28-2005, 01:46 PM
Hill climbing (not hillshooting)
your guys ideas on hill climing are entirely different then ours. for us, the hill may not be too steep, but itll be muddy, have some stonewalls on it, and logs galore. sport quads dont stand a chance. as for real steep hills, so far the kodiak i had was the champ. since our areas arent that open, you cant get a running start at all. so its 4wd, high range and nail it while leaning forward as much as u can. that thing was so nose heavy you couldnt roll it backwards... sucked going downhills though
#28
04-28-2005, 02:53 PM
Hill climbing (not hillshooting)
"And if you were to sit down on a 90 degree incline???? Come on bro. You don't really expect me to believe that do you??"
uh, yeah I do. I don't mean this to be disrespectfull, but if you don't have the intelligance to understand that, then I might as well debate with the wall. Your not going to get traction leaning forward, I don't why that is so hard to understand, on a sport quad anyway.
And using body english is not just leaning over the bars, it is positioning your body to where you need the most traction, depending on the ruts, bumps, etc. You use throttle control to keep the front end down, cause withput traction, you ain't never going to make it up!
LOL, and yes I believe we are talking about different types of hills, considering you don't think you can climb a 90 degree hill and make it stick. But when you do climb a 90 degree and shoot off the top, then you want to lean over the bars so you don't freefall back down, especially on a dirtbike.
Inexperienced guys hang over the bars, I used to at first to out of fear, but after a while I would think every competent mind would learn. LOL[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]
uh, yeah I do. I don't mean this to be disrespectfull, but if you don't have the intelligance to understand that, then I might as well debate with the wall. Your not going to get traction leaning forward, I don't why that is so hard to understand, on a sport quad anyway.
And using body english is not just leaning over the bars, it is positioning your body to where you need the most traction, depending on the ruts, bumps, etc. You use throttle control to keep the front end down, cause withput traction, you ain't never going to make it up!
LOL, and yes I believe we are talking about different types of hills, considering you don't think you can climb a 90 degree hill and make it stick. But when you do climb a 90 degree and shoot off the top, then you want to lean over the bars so you don't freefall back down, especially on a dirtbike.
Inexperienced guys hang over the bars, I used to at first to out of fear, but after a while I would think every competent mind would learn. LOL[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]
#29
04-28-2005, 03:15 PM
Hill climbing (not hillshooting)
As far as instinct, you'd be surprized at how many people don't have this "instinct". I also challenge you that instinct will not cause you to stand up and place your upper torso clear over the handlebars for long steep hillclimbs!. Took me quite a while to get that part down.
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04-28-2005, 04:07 PM
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Hill climbing (not hillshooting)
I love hill climbing, more so on snow machine in the winter. On snow machine you can climb faster, higher and safer, if your not going to make it you can kean over with the throttle pinned and high mark. In snow, with the throttle pinned and leaned into the hill, the track will go level diggin a tranch, lifting the downhill ski, and a way you go!!!
Cant really do that on a quad, once gravity kicks in, your tumbling to the bottom, granted that doesnt always stop me from attempting a sweet hill, especially in the sand pits.
Cant really do that on a quad, once gravity kicks in, your tumbling to the bottom, granted that doesnt always stop me from attempting a sweet hill, especially in the sand pits.