My buddy has a xr650 and the thing is sick why dosent honda produce a 650R and haveit compete with the raptor because the V-force isnt competive

 

Don't tell me the V isen't competetive. stock yes but mine it kist lightly modded and I kill almost anything at the track the only thing that gives me problems are the ltrs with there cherry bombs and pipes.

 

This is a topic we have done a bunch of times! I use to think I needed a 650EX. Now that I have a 450R, I realize that I neither need nor even want a 650.

They raced the CRF450X and XR650 Baja bikes in one of the magazines, and know what, the 450 was faster! The little 450 engine rocks. THERE IS A REPLACEMENT FOR DISPLACEMENT!

I do hope everyone who wants a 650 gets one, but if they come out with one, I'll be spending my money somewhere else.

 

yes, i agree. There IS a replacement for displacement. With the right tuning and the right gearing, todays racing quads are passing up the larger bore quads, mostly due to a better power-to weight ratio. Keep the bigger bore engines for the ute's that would make honda's ute lineup a little more competitive.

 

The XR650 will run with all the rest out there [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img][img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]

 

Deja Vu, I have answered this topic before. My opinion is that Honda would definately make money on a 650 sport. It would be a better mount for me right now when putting the trails at idle speed behind my young son than my 450 is. It would make a better over all ride for any family outing or group outing where speeds are lower. Yet a true sport 650 could still be cranked up and run on that back woods mx track when the group reaches it. Like it or not, I think the big bores can be a viable alternative to anyone that appreciates 450 style power and handling, but needs a quad that is comfortable and capable in a wider range of variables. Me also thinks Big Red is gunshy from the trike days. All of there quads except the 450R seem to be down on power compared to the other manufacturers.

 

xr650warrior is that good liquid cooled motor or is that the street legal motor?

 

there is no replacement for displacement. Tie a rope to both a raptor and a 450r and see which one wins a pulling, or pushing, or climbing race... bring it on

 

lol I am not getting invloved in this one as I have a ds650 and a 450r but I must say that they are both great quads

 

OK....THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT OVER ALL POWER...AND SPEED NOT WHO MAKES MORE TORQ>>>>OBVIOUSLY THE RAPTOR IS GONNA MAKE MORE PULLING POWER THAN THE 450R BUT PUT THEM IN A HEAD TO HEAD DRAG AND ON THE MX TRACK THEN WELL SEE >>>>>BRING IT ... THATS WHERE IT REALLY COUNTS NOT PULLING TWO QUADS WITH A ROPE!!! LEAVE THAT UP TO THE UTILITY QUADS.
SO IN CONCLUSION THE 450R WILL OWN THE RAPTOR IN pretty Much every aspect....EXCEPT MAYBE TORQ BUT I WOULDNT BE SURPRISED. DONT GET ME WRONG IV RIDDIN BOTH 660R AND 700R AND THEY ARE BOTH GREAT QUADS JUST NOT COMPETATIVE WHEN IT COMES TO 450"S IN MX.