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Old Nov 21, 2006 | 12:34 AM
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Nice to see them have to eat the dust of two Hondas............

And you don't think they prepared as well as Honda did for this, with the reputation of their brand new PIG on the line???? >>>>>>>>

Apples and oranges....The Outlander has dominated all the utlity series. You can only prepare so much the machine still has to hold up. I see a lot of Honda 650 ATV's in this race finished high, a 450r frame with a 650 I guess enduro engine?
 
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Old Nov 21, 2006 | 09:10 AM
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Originally posted by: LTZ
I'm not sure if you guys caught this in my first post but I was commenting on ATVtech's post about the overall winner being a 450. That would be the 1X entry which is a bike, not the quad.
Well I know that team isn't afraid to cut course, cause I know they did in '04 I believe![img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]


But like I said, it really doesn't even make up that much of a difference, I don't know why even do it.[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif[/img]
 
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Old Nov 21, 2006 | 09:11 AM
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Originally posted by: raidermike67 I see a lot of Honda 650 ATV's in this race finished high, a 450r frame with a 650 I guess enduro engine?
I'm not sure about this year, but I know they have been using the 650 engines in 400ex frames.
 
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Old Nov 21, 2006 | 10:51 AM
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Not sure what this "650" thing is about. In the top 5 finishers, I see only one and it is called a "Honda SRP650". http://race.off-road.com/race/articl....jsp?id=386965

I will try to post a list of all the finishers, but I do not recall seeing any other Honda 650 ATV's listed.

Also, the time difference between the 1st and 2nd place finisher is ~2 hours. Now even if they did cut the course by 3 or 4 miles, no way that is going to account for two whole hours.............
 
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Old Nov 21, 2006 | 11:30 AM
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Also, the time difference between the 1st and 2nd place finisher is ~2 hours. Now even if they did cut the course by 3 or 4 miles, no way that is going to account for two whole hours.............
That's what I'm saying. Cutting of a couple miles in a 1000 mile race will make no difference in finishing order.
 
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Old Nov 21, 2006 | 11:38 AM
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Cutting the course does help if it's after a crash and you can get to your pit faster by bypassing a very slow section. They saved 30- 45 mins by CHEATING !! Maybe it doesn't make a difference in the class standings but it sure does in the overall standings. I was told yesterday that there was a protest filed by more than one team. I'll bet anybody that we hear nothing about it.
 
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Old Nov 21, 2006 | 12:35 PM
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Originally posted by: motox26
Originally posted by: reconranger Also, the time difference between the 1st and 2nd place finisher is ~2 hours. Now even if they did cut the course by 3 or 4 miles, no way that is going to account for two whole hours.............
That's what I'm saying. Cutting of a couple miles in a 1000 mile race will make no difference in finishing order.
Where do we draw the line? Cheating is just that.....CHEATING. Man law here!
 
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Old Nov 21, 2006 | 12:40 PM
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Originally posted by: LTZ
Cutting the course does help if it's after a crash and you can get to your pit faster by bypassing a very slow section. They saved 30- 45 mins by CHEATING !! Maybe it doesn't make a difference in the class standings but it sure does in the overall standings. I was told yesterday that there was a protest filed by more than one team. I'll bet anybody that we hear nothing about it.
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Originally posted by: garyc660R
Originally posted by: motox26
Originally posted by: reconranger Also, the time difference between the 1st and 2nd place finisher is ~2 hours. Now even if they did cut the course by 3 or 4 miles, no way that is going to account for two whole hours.............
That's what I'm saying. Cutting of a couple miles in a 1000 mile race will make no difference in finishing order.
Where do we draw the line? Cheating is just that.....CHEATING. Man law here!


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Old Nov 21, 2006 | 02:06 PM
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Originally posted by: garyc660R
Originally posted by: motox26
Originally posted by: reconranger Also, the time difference between the 1st and 2nd place finisher is ~2 hours. Now even if they did cut the course by 3 or 4 miles, no way that is going to account for two whole hours.............
That's what I'm saying. Cutting of a couple miles in a 1000 mile race will make no difference in finishing order.
Where do we draw the line? Cheating is just that.....CHEATING. Man law here!
I thought the man law was it ain't cheating unless you get caught.[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img]
 
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