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Old 09-03-1999, 05:52 PM
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This is really funny. I like comedic threads like this. 38 hp from a 333EX huh? You say you get beat by Banshees too, huh? Very interesting. Were you aware that a STOCK Banshee puts out about 39 hp and weighs 386 lbs dry? Your 300 is a bit lighter if I remember correctly, and bone stock the 300 puts out about 20 hp (if that). Then, you say for $1400, you were able to do suspension and the 333 kit (which you claim to have 38 hp).

I don't know about anyone else here, but I'm puttin on my boots, cuz the poops a little too deep for me in here.

Question for you - just so you can PROVE to us that your motor cranks out 38 hp - At what rpm does it put out 38 hp, and what is the torque at that rpm? If you have the number, then you OBVIOUSLY have had it run on a dyno, right? Or maybe you are just ESTIMATING the hp. So tell me, I'm really dying to here what you have to say...
 
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Old 09-04-1999, 10:05 PM
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Instead of posting such an insulting message,you should have just asked the simple questions you obviuosly need to overcome your envy or jelously. Do you actually think i would post this many false messages,such an acusation only shows your intellegence. As for my ex it puts out a dyno confirmed 35HP i did estamate 3 more, after i port and polished intake and carb.At 7500 to 8000 rpm it is at peek (35)hp than loses power considerably on up to its redline of 10300 rpm. If you dont understand this that is why you have to short shift a 4 stroke unlike a 2 stroke that you rev up to redline.That is why i loose to banshee's also because of there quicker and longer reving motor's, but i wont get into that now unless you need to know how a motor operates.And as for the 1400 dollars that is because i did ALL the work myself, you would be suprised at what an experienced engine builder can do to a little motor that responds tremendously to modification. Now onto the torque, i am at 29ft lbs at 7500rpm it would be more if i used a different cam and less discs in my exaust but i go for more HP than torque like in a 2-stroke. Now i hope that helped your interests im my ex, and if you need to know anything else please ask and dont result to your little magazine tests and results.Or maybee if your in the Carolina's sometime i will teach you on the track. Alex, 98 333ex

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Old 09-06-1999, 02:48 PM
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Al300EX

he can say nothing after that he is just a lamer
 
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Old 09-07-1999, 02:18 PM
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Well, now that you've made the numbers up. Let me explain how I know.

Torque = hp x 5252 / rpm. On a dyno, they do not actaully measure hp. Torque is measured and then hp is calculated from torque and rpm by this formula. That's why I asked you about the torque and rpm. They are necessary for the calculation, and I guessed correctly that you were not aware of that.

You claim: 29 = 35 x 5252 / 7500

OOPS!!! 29 does not equal 24.5

Sorry.
 
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Old 09-07-1999, 05:13 PM
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Have you ever used a dynomometer? OOPS!! guess not! well if you ever get to see one you will notice amoung the 30 or so switches there is one for torque and one for Hp so please get the facts and not the magazine figures again. Let me guess you must own a polaris, a true honda owner would never question its capabilities. Thanks Slade for being on my side.
 
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Old 09-07-1999, 07:19 PM
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Um, guys, I believe you are both a little mistaken. First of all, HP x 5252 = Torque x RPM. Using this, the equation to find horsepower from a torque reading is (Torque x RPM)/5252 = HP. So if the 333EX is making 29ft.lb. at 7500RPMs the that would mean he is making 41.4hp. I don't mean to sound negative here, but a doubt that motor is making this kind of power. But since I've never seen the bike, or it's dyno slip or know all its mods for that matter, I can't saying that AL300EX is lying about the figures. And if it is making those numbers, then congrats to AL300EX and his quad. Secondly, dynos do only "measure" torque, the horsepower is then derived from the torque reading and can be displayed on the dyno.

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Old 09-07-1999, 07:30 PM
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OOPS!!

Magazine figures? Your assumptions are again quite inaccurate. On the contrary, they are actual dyno runs that I have in my possession.

Rather than the futile attempt at saving face by slamming me (and all of the Polaris owners out there), why don't you admit that you made the numbers up and let it go at that?

-SandmanBlue and his mild mannered Banshee.
 
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Old 09-08-1999, 06:54 PM
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I did not come to this forum to brag and say i have the best quad, all i wanted to do was let every 300ex owner now that there is still hope for our quads to be fast, but for some reason you keep coming back accusing me of lying. I know that i have the dyno print outs right here at my desk, maybee they are wrong,maybee not, but who are you to tell me they are. I do know for a fact that my race results are indeed true. So for the time being i think i have said all i need to to you!

Al300ex, and his very aggravated 333ex
 
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Old 09-10-1999, 12:03 AM
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YAh that right.. im a 300ex owner
and AL300ex give the information i need..
he tell me that my 300ex can put out 38 hp... and if its a litle lower.. . that make any change for me and its more i will just be more happy..

AL300ex whit all the mods you have how HP do you think a 355cc bore will give..

333 = 38hp -- 355 = 40hp?!?! or more=)) HEHE its more than a stock banshee

Slade 98 300ex a fun riders
 
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Old 09-10-1999, 12:54 AM
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Hey Al300ex I was wondering if you know if a Honda 250r is faster than a lt250r. I was wondering because you said you can beat a 400ex but not a 250r. And when I raced a slighty modified lt250r we were dead even. Don't get me wrong, I am not doubting you, I don't know enough about the mechanics of a quad to say anything. But I do wish I could race you. I might not win but I really don't care. I just like to ride. Thanks
 


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