I said it will turn the tires with the bbig red gear reduction like stock tires. I had a prairie and all that thing did was tear up time and time again sensor this belt that it was unreliable I gave it away for a 99 polaris xplorer. It was always in some sort of limp mode. The facts I gave were abought the transmission which were facts the opinions I gave were about the type of rideing it should be able to do. Yes it is odd that the 500 foreman can out work the big bore but they built the foreman to be a work horse hints the name foreman. No one forces any buddy to buy something I rode my friends rincon liked it so I bought one it works good for what I do with it. It is comfortable for two people the suspension supplys a great ride it carrys my guns and deer to and from the woods it drags my duck boat to and from the boat ramp I am not dragging telephone poles with it I have a cummins for that. Like I said before the man was asking for opinions on the rincon I gave what mine were and ways it could be better for cheap.

 

My reference on car like shifting was for the rincon its transmission is just like say a turbo 350 trans or anyother automatic trans that is a 3 speed. And since u say the cvt isn't like a car why don't u check out the nissans now a days they have a cvt non shifting trans. Read and interpret what u are reading before you respond with ignorance

 

So you say belt systems don't tear up that's pretty good there is a heck of an aftermarket for high strength belts for them not failing. Every one I know with a belt bike has put a belt on prematurely because of failure and they fail at the worst times like 30 miles from camp. Now I am not saying rincons don't have problems okay u have to wait for it to warm up when cold don't you do that in your car you don't like how it shifts in auto they gave you the option with a flip of the switch to be manual yeah hp isn't comparable to the v twin bikes that makes sense it is a single cylinder of course they is less torque but also has less moving parts to break I mean we can go on an on here in the perfect worl yeah a rincon would be a 1000cc 4 cylinder mulitport injected high,low,and low low range bike with a 6 speed transmission and on 31s from the factory.

 

Any how beer gut it looks to me by ur sig you are not satisfied by any manufacturers wheeler as u have had dang near all of them. Semper Fi

 

what?

It's kind of hard to read a post from a person who does not use punctuation and misspells every other word.

In any case-that's not what I said.

I said: "not only that, but cars, sleds & motorcycles also use cvt's without incident (in reference to your "car-like honda tranny") "

in other words... having an atv with a "car-like" clutch / tranny is not an indication on how relibale an atv is- the cvt is not the weekest part of the drivetrain. CVT's are strong enough to be used in machines that dawrf the hp in any atv. Also- like TLC points out, every other manufacturer of the popular bigbores, all of which have much more hp then any honda atv, use CVT clutches.

Using your argument, that honda atv's are more reliable & stronger then a cvt atv because honda has a "car-like" tranny / clutch setup is basically saying the big-bore engineers at yamaha, suzuki, kawasaki, can-am, polaris and arctic-cat (all use the cvt system) don't know what they are doing.


I enjoy every atv I buy- I don't sell my atv's because I'm not "happy" with a particular brand (though I do have a preference) I mostly sell them because I want to experience another brand that I feel I may like.
How do you know which atv is the right atv before you try'em out?
Every atv I've owned has good & bad points.

I'll guarantee you this- no atv built after 2005 is any more or less reliable then the next. Honda may have been "king of reliability" in the 80's & 90's - but that's just not the case anymore.

semper-fi

 

I think we are both just taking each other the wrong way man I own the rincon a yamaha big bear which actually is my favorite I think and a polaris xplorer they are all fun and they all play there own part I have not had good luck with belt bikes in the past so I try and steer clear now I didn't mean to base reliablilty off the trans I was just saying that is how it works like a car trans. Any how I like the rincon I am sure I would like the others to but for what I do it is satisfying to me. Get right down to it they are all over priced nowa days that is for sure

 

Don't listen to anyone... I have a 07 Rincon and it's the best ATV i have owned thus far.. I've put 3k miles on it without a dollar in maintenance in it except oil changes and a spark plug... not a wheel bearing.. a brake pad.. nothing. Everyone else i ride with with all the same miles put on in the same areas.. suzukis yamahas and polaris machines in the group have replaced brake pads one or two times and at least one to 3 wheel bearings each or a arm bushings. This Rincon is tight as hell. I don't baby it wheelies every time I take off and I will jump it if the opportunity arises. I even like to WIND the guts out of the motor so when i shift it feels like a shift kit.. I dunno shifting is just really fun... a full auto machine feels like a snowmobile with tires. I'm not saying that CVT isnt efficient or fast or reliable now... I would just rather not have it.

This doesn't really answer the question the original poster had though i was just trying to say the quality of this machine is A++.

As for uphill and downhill riding yes a LOW range would be super awesome... the ability to use the machine in manual shift is more than adequate for downhill or uphill situations... I mean really?? I've had my rincon in gravel pits and climbed everything there I mean steep *** pits.. and as for downhill it would have to be a pretty crazy downhill for me to even get worried about the engine braking not being good enough.


I mean my girlfriend is 38 years old and learned to ride on this rincon.. we go up hills and downhills and she never once said "Ohhh boohooo I cant go down this hill cuz I can't hit the brakes Boohoo"..and she's kinda a big baby..

The whole engine braking conversation is soooooo tired...

The problem people have with the machine is yes CC for CC it doesnt make alot of power compared... but honda like to keep it simple and detune to make the engine bullet proof.. It provides more enough power and feels very torquey for a very spirited trail ride.. in fact I get into trouble with it often it handles so damn well i think I'm on a sport quad until i have to stop the 600+lb machine in a tight corner.

I wouldnt trade my Rincon for any current ATVs made right now. In fact I've been tryin to find another one used and its an impossible adventure.. I can find a million grizzlys ,sportsmans ,and king quads not 1 2007 or newer rincon.

It's starting to **** me off... I feel like Im gonna have to settle for something I don't want or buy new...

If i was buying a machine to work on a farm... or putting giant tires on it and going mudding all day it wouldn't be my choice... but for normal recreational riding I don't think this machine has an equal..

 

The Rincon is only rated at 39 HP thats the lowest rating for a 700 class displacement, the new 550s push that much. All Hondas with there OHV motors are down on power vs a higher reeving OHC motor.

500 Foreman is 27hp vs a 500H.O at 35hp.

Honda sure does not use OHC motors in there Motorcycles or sport ATVs.

I don,t mind CVT , if they can hold up to 145hp snowmobiles @7000 rpm I,m sure low powered 70hp ATVs are not much of a chore for them.

 

oh my- unit, with all due respect... you're sniffing the wrong glue


you must have one of those supercharged rincons
cause of all the rincons I've ridden & owned (05 650, 06 650 & my friends 07 680 fi) not a single one could wheelie off the line simply by stuffing the throttle... Unless you wanted to stand on the back rack and pull up the front with all your strength.
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maybe if you've never owned an atv with an engine brake, and you don't know what you're missing. Every big-bore atv currently made uses engine braking / ADC- and for a good reason... Controling a 600-800lb atv while decending a steep hill (like a 30*- 50* angle) is tough business, especially if you're riging rocky mountain trails. Engine braking extends brake pad life 10 fold and keeps the atv in control when decending a rocky steep hill. It also enables the rider to remain in control of the steering, if you're skidding down a hill with the brakes locked- you're screwed! Down playing engine braking or ADC is like saying ABS is a waste of money & engineering
I've had both my polaris & can-am down 45* 500' hills and was able to totally take my hands off the atv bars and let it crawl down itself- actually have to gas it sometimes or it'll stop!

That's one of the best atv control features since the invention of the atv!

You're crazy if you think enging braking is a "tired" feature on an atv!




that atv had an equal back in the 90's and was surpassed by every other manufacturer in the late 90's! Owning & riding the atv's I have, I can't personally think of one reason why anyone would buy a new honda atv with the currect available selection. It has no features, no power and it's no more reliable then any other atv currently made

 

Thanks, everyone for your imput. right now I own a 2001 honda fourtrax, manual shift. The thing is absolutly bullit proof. I have had it everywhere and done everything to it and it it asks for more. I really like the honda toughness thats why I'm thinking on buying the 07 Rincon. We do climb some big hills and drive through the mud and snow quite often and I'm wondering If switching the Rincon to manual shift ( in first gear ) will act like my 2001 in second gear, going up and down hills and plowing through the snow. Also has anyone had any experience with a 2nd passenger on Rincon's. Can there suspension handle riding 2-up.