The rancher has the same travel as the 450S-5.9" yet is $1,000 less. the rubicon is said to have 6.7"... I cant wate for a review on these two quad's.. maybe the rancher will have enough guts and handle good enough not to need the new rubicon.. time will tell
Joe

 

Just rode the rancher ES around in a paved lot and was able to play on a few curb's, the frount end is pretty soft.. glad to see that it wasnt a empty dump truck feel! Anyone else that has "real" ride time please post your feelings.. They quoted me $5,200 for the ES model (no tax in oregon)

 

I rode the Rancher ES 4x4 today in grassy area.It turned alot easier than the 300 4x4.I thought the electric shift was really smooth.I was a little bigger than I thought it would be.I'm going to wait and see how the 4x2 rides before I decide to get one or not.They told me that the 4x2 should be out in a couple of weeks.