MUD TIRES!!!!!
Sep 17, 2001 | 09:55 PM
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The outlaws would be best if alls you do is MUD MUD MUD if you trail ride or anything besides MUD then get the 589's. PS the 589's aren't really the best mud tire I have heard that they aren't that much better then the stockers, just what I have heard though good luck with whatever you choose, Zeebo.
Sep 18, 2001 | 04:48 PM
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are you sure the 589s are not any better then the stock tires? my friend has a 300 4x4 w/ them and he can go through stufff and wont even spin..but when he had his stock, they spined alot. what would be another GOOD mud tire that can also do ok on trails.
Sep 18, 2001 | 08:00 PM
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I just put 27" ITP 589's on my Prairie 650 and I want to tell you that these tires are excellent. Not only for mud but hardpack too. I can slide the back out on turns at will. The only thing I can see on the negative is they have too much traction and dig a hole very quickly.
Oct 10, 2001 | 01:29 AM
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Well, I just ripped the front axle out of my 650. I was stuck too many times the other day. I think I would try the Goodyear Mud runners next time
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Oct 10, 2001 | 06:16 PM
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Not sure what you mean a "highlifter outlaw will bury a 2x4". ANY aggressive tread mud tire will dig down more than a stock tire, whether it be 2x4 or 4x4, no exceptions. How much mud riding do you do? I assume that with a 2 wheel drive machine, you would be wasting your money on the Outlaws-they are a PURE mud tire, not recommended for any other type of riding-and I don't see your 2 wheel drive running the swamps very often. Same with the Vamps. The 589s are a good all-around tire, as are the mud runners, mud bugs, and I would also consider my 'Claws to be a excellent "all around" tire as well. All of the above mentioned will be a great improvement over stock, no question about that. In regards to the 589, yes, my 'Claws do handle the deep stuff a little easier, but the 589s do great none the less, I have ridden on them before on various machines and while I don't own them, I will recommend them highly.
In regards to the 589s and the prairie axle, that is confusing as well. Not sure if you mean the 589s were the reason you broke your axle, but I sure hope not. I hate to say it, but I agree with Rubicon Bob-it ain't the 589s fault and if you think the mud runners would not have caused it to break, you are mistaken. Any aftermarket aggressive tire adds stress and strain to all machines-this is a given, and should be understood before buying a more aggressive tire. With that in mind, the difference in tread between the 589 and the mud runner has nothing to do with the axle coming apart. In the situation you were in, any aftermarket tire-larger than stock would have done the same thing, and depending on the exact situation, stock tires very easily could have done the same thing-again, depending on what kind of "precarious position" you found yourself in. The other thing is, getting stuck more than once does not effect the axle coming apart. These things are built for this purpose and I will assume you were in situation of deep mud along with deep ruts, maybe angled or something, or with your tires turned to the side in the rut, while applying torque to the wheel whether forward or reverse and actually separating the axle from the cv-is this close? Too much suspension flex will result in tearing the axle half-shaft from the cv joint as well-such as if you removed your ball joints, the a-arm will move full extension up and down, and will be more than the length of the shaft, so it can pull free from the joint. Without knowing the exact circumstance, it is hard to say, but again, the tires or difference in tread pattern from the 589 to the mud runner would not have made a difference.
Anyway, Best of Luck in the decision,
Mike
In regards to the 589s and the prairie axle, that is confusing as well. Not sure if you mean the 589s were the reason you broke your axle, but I sure hope not. I hate to say it, but I agree with Rubicon Bob-it ain't the 589s fault and if you think the mud runners would not have caused it to break, you are mistaken. Any aftermarket aggressive tire adds stress and strain to all machines-this is a given, and should be understood before buying a more aggressive tire. With that in mind, the difference in tread between the 589 and the mud runner has nothing to do with the axle coming apart. In the situation you were in, any aftermarket tire-larger than stock would have done the same thing, and depending on the exact situation, stock tires very easily could have done the same thing-again, depending on what kind of "precarious position" you found yourself in. The other thing is, getting stuck more than once does not effect the axle coming apart. These things are built for this purpose and I will assume you were in situation of deep mud along with deep ruts, maybe angled or something, or with your tires turned to the side in the rut, while applying torque to the wheel whether forward or reverse and actually separating the axle from the cv-is this close? Too much suspension flex will result in tearing the axle half-shaft from the cv joint as well-such as if you removed your ball joints, the a-arm will move full extension up and down, and will be more than the length of the shaft, so it can pull free from the joint. Without knowing the exact circumstance, it is hard to say, but again, the tires or difference in tread pattern from the 589 to the mud runner would not have made a difference.
Anyway, Best of Luck in the decision,
Mike