magnum500 vs. foreman 450
Nov 19, 1999 | 07:22 PM
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GORDON i'm not real familar with jeeps and the like but seems to me most of them have a hell of a suspention under them giving them plenty of sway,not sure thats what i want to say, but they twist and turn quite abit.If your interested there is a good site, MOAB 4x4 that has some good pics of Jeeps in action.There is one part of it, that has some good video of a roll over.When I seen them guy's get killed,I was talking to one of the other guy's,he was saying how much safer he felt in a jeep over quad.No way I can get away from that QUAD, they were in the Jeep for the duration.Later cob
Nov 19, 1999 | 08:02 PM
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Cob,I have 3 Polaris dealers around me,NONE of them worth a damn.It becomes Polaris problem to,when a manufacture sells their product CONTINUALLY to a troubled dealer who dont take care of their customers.If there are several complaints against the Dealers that im selling my product to,then im liable as a manufacturer to a certain extent.Polaris did step in and offer to help out,I just cant find a real dealer who cares or even knows jack about what there doing.It is SOOOOooo frustrating having so many problems with a brand new quad,and nobody seems to care.Hell,Winter will be over with by the time I get my Sportsman back.Guess what?If I wind up shovling snow by hand instead of plowing with my so called new Sportsman,somebody might wind up hurt.Yes,thats how pissed I am.Im so pleased that you and others are pleased with your quads,wished I was.GOOD DAY----BILL
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Nov 19, 1999 | 08:06 PM
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Gordon,
There are some Jeeps (2WD maybe) in those indoor "offroad" races that have IRS in front. indoor-offroad... Kinda like Jumbo shrimp. But that's not real off roading. There are a few homemade jobs I've seen with IRS but all the tough guys who mud & rock crawl have solid axle front & rear. The only way to go, in a truck/Jeep/SUV I think. I've never ridden a Sportsman so I can't say about a quad. There is at least one 250R running around in the desert races though with an IRS rear-end. From what I understand it performed well but couldn't hold up to the long race. Still working out the bugs.
c-ya,
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There are some Jeeps (2WD maybe) in those indoor "offroad" races that have IRS in front. indoor-offroad... Kinda like Jumbo shrimp. But that's not real off roading. There are a few homemade jobs I've seen with IRS but all the tough guys who mud & rock crawl have solid axle front & rear. The only way to go, in a truck/Jeep/SUV I think. I've never ridden a Sportsman so I can't say about a quad. There is at least one 250R running around in the desert races though with an IRS rear-end. From what I understand it performed well but couldn't hold up to the long race. Still working out the bugs.
c-ya,
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Nov 19, 1999 | 09:00 PM
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corncob2 wrote: "GORDON;i don't know where you get all this info."
That's pretty clear to most of us already, Cob. But the info is out there waiting for oyu to find it and learn it. That's why I suggested that you do more research and studying on subjects you wish to debate. As long as you base your knowledge on a subject solely from your own experiences, you often miss reality altogether. I think it's important to broaden your scope of input... find out all you can from other owners of similar machines, to include more experienced and knowledgable riders. Read the magazines, and do your best to sort fact from fiction (Hint: Facts are more often repeated than fiction.) Opinions can offer valuable input, of course, but only when considered along with the truth. For example, not all Polaris riders fully understand how their AWD system works. Many think they have 4WD whenever they push the button, and many think they can have 4WD when descending hills. As you already know, of course, these assumptions are incorrect. That some people believe them to be true, doesn't make them facts.
"I,ve never had the feeling of falling off in a fast corner..."
I don't find that difficult to believe, so I suggest you continue riding at your safe pace. Since I'm more accustomed to quads that stay flater and more level in turns, I'm used to being able to corner harder and faster. When attempting to do that on a Sportsman, it can get scary pretty quickly. It's understandable that not many Sportsman riders ride tright trails at a spirited pace. Trying to corner hard and fast on a Sportsman would be like me trying to do 50 mph on my Honda 300 4x4... it may be possible, but it sure isn't likely!
"...why compare the utility machine to a racing machine,you truly lost me on that one."
Because you proposed the theory that better traction was all-important, and I hope you now understand that it isn't. Sometimes you want all the traction you can get, but not always.
"How many racing machines do you see,try to crawl rocks in the moutains."
Quite a few. Many off-road races include a lot of hills, rocks, etc.
"If your racing down the road at high speed, you sure have no use for 4 wheel, thats why there is a 2wheel button."
You often mention "misinformation", cob, so I can't help but wonder where you get so much of it. Four-wheel drive offers numerous advantages, even on hard-surface roads, and even at high speeds. All those 4WD Porsches and Audis are not, I assure you, off-road vehicles.
"Why once you have rolled sideways would you go back for seconds?"
Cob, just because you don't succeed at something the first time (or even the first hundred times) you try, that doesn't necessarily mean you can't succeed with more practice and the additional knowledge that comes with practice and early failures. How many athletes are winners the first time they compete? You go back for seconds because you learn from your early failures to become better at it. You go back for seconds because you refuse to accept defeat! You go back because you want to learn what it takes to succeed!
"I have learned my machines limitations and try to stay with in them, nothing wrong with pushing them, but why past them more than once."
Cob, I don't think you have any idea how much you reveal about yourself by saying such a thing. I very, very seriously doubt that you have truly learned your machine's limitations. I doubt that one rider in a thousand thoroughly knows his machine's true limitations. A better rider can often do things with the same machine that would amaze the inexperienced pilot. Don't be foolhardy, but don't be too quick to assume or accept limitations, either... for yourself or your machine.
"You still haven't told me where it is that you ride that I can't."
But I did explain why, didn't I? But if you insist on an example... the waterfall about half-way along the area we call "Water World" at Coal Mine Mountain. I've gone up it a number of times on my 300, but so far, no other rider has even tried it. You might make it with ease... but I doubt it. Again at Coal Mine Mt., there are some hills at the old Strip Mine where most 4WD quads (with bold riders) descend safely (albeit nervously), but I've yet to see a Polaris with stock brakes make it down without crashing. And I could go with other examples. But you don't know these places, so what's the point? Except that there are other riders here who DO know the places (Steve has seen the Polaris entertainment I described at the Strip Mine), I could be making them up for all you know. Unless we both know a certain area, describing "spots" and "places" is meaningless. But here's a very basic example that should be easy for you to understand. My Honda 300 is not as wide as a Sportsman 500, so I can go between some trees and rocks that your wider machine can't. And if the only trail up a hill takes you between two objects that are too close together for you to pass, then you can't make it where a smaller quad can. (No, Pontiac lovers... wider is NOT always better!)
"You don't know me, or my riding capabilitys,or what I ride in,why would you assume, you know so much about me when you don't.That was the point of my first post!"
No, Cob, it's you that doesn't know. Whether you accept it or not, people learn a lot more about a writer, just from reading things he writes, than you seem to realize. You already described what you considered a "good trail". You admitted that you don't corner fast enough to feel threatened. You showed the limitations of your knowledge about the mechanics of riding, and about the AWD system on the very quad you own. You suggested taking advice from people you know nothing about. You suggested that you know your machine's limitations. You admitted that you're not likely to try something again after you fail once. Writers commonly even reveal certain things about their level of education, their personality, their maturity, their honesty, their judgement... and much more. And usually, the more you read what they write, the more you can learn about the writer. The image I have of you may not agree with how you see yourself (it rarely ever does), but when you speak or write, you can't help but reveal a lot about yourself.
"The whole point was talk about what you know, not what you think you know."
Do you really not see the folly in such a statement, Cob? Is it so hard for you to understand that when a person believes what he is saying, then he also believes he knows what he is saying? It's a fundamental truth. I'm not saying that you don't "believe" what you're saying, I'm just pointing out that you don't have all the facts, and that you're filling in the blank spaces of your knowledge with a lot of erroneous assumptions, probably based in the easy acceptance as fact, those suppositions that you want to be facts. Sadly, we're all guilty of this from time to time. I even married a second time!
"I talked about the polaris as that is what I know..."
We "know" what we "think" is true. But that doesn't have to prevent us from learning the real truth later on. Again, a lot of Polaris riders "know" they have a 4WD machine... until they learn that it's an AWD machine. And then some don't even understand the difference. Many Honda riders don't "know" the limitations of their limited slip front differential, but they are just as real anyway. No matter how much you feel you "know", don't let that stop you from replacing what you "know" with the truth.
"...you had so much misinformation in there that i felt that I needed to reply."
Sadly, you did reply, and in doing so, you revealed your confusion about certain facts, and what you thought was "misinformation".
"I refered you to someone who is knowledgeable, you say you wouldn't talk to someone you don't know.
Are you innocently overlooking the truth here, Cob, or are you intentionally trying to hide it? Did I say I wouldn't talk to someone I don't know? Did I not state clearly enough for you to understand that I DID talk to other riders before buying my first quad? Once again, you reveal much of yourself by presenting this new example of "misinformation". But for your benefit, I will try to make it even clearer. YOU tell me that Kagey is a knowledgeable ATV mechanic, but do you really expect me to accept this as fact from someone who has already presented so many errors and mistruths? Besides, how do you know about Kagey? HE may say that he is a knowledgeable ATV mechanic, and he may well be, but is an unsupported claim enough to make you believe it? (You're still revealing youself.) Kagey's knowledge of ATV's may be vast and excellent, of course, but we don't know that for a fact. We do know, however, that people who earn their living in the service department of our local dealer, really are mechanics. And once we know where to find real mechanics, it's not difficult to determine their knowledge and experience. Kagey may be a better mechanic than any here in my town, but I don't know that as a fact.
"I don't ride much mud, as I'm in the mountains, majority of our rideing is rocks and rough terain."
Then you were obviously exaggerating and mistaken (more and more revealing) when you said that I could not get to where you ride. I don't think the Sportsman 500 has any meaningful capabilities over my Honda 300 other than speed and mud. If you ride a lot of rocks, then I seriously doubt that you would embarrass my little Honda.
"...anybody that rides the moutains knows what I'm saying."
You really think it's that easy and clear cut, don't you? It's never even dawned on you that some people attempt obstabcles you consider too difficult, has it? Two of us drove all the way from Alabama to Utah to ride one of the ATV Jamborees, only to ride trails that would not have challenged an air conditioned pickup truck! Being in the high mountains does not automatically mean difficult and challenging trails. You still pick and choose. And even though I seldom ride in the flat-lands, I have no doubts that one could find seriously challenging there if you look for it. I've heard about Moab and its challenges, and I think I'd love it. But I've also heard that Jeeps and trucks make the climb there, and I've seen very few places (so far) where jeeps and trucks could drive, that would really challenge a good rider on a properly setup 4x4 ATV. At Tellico Plains, several of us on ATV's RODE where the jeeps and trucks had to be winched.
"I'm sure if you check into it you will find that Kawa has changed thier cluch. It's more along the line of polaris."
I hope you're wrong! That would be a step backward! The Prairies I've ridden had less hesitation and throttle lag than any stock Polaris I ever rode!
"I just felt that you were puting misinformation on here, and wanted to set the record straight."
Well, you may have set some kind of record, alright, but I'm sorry it wasn't what you were hoping for. I just hope you've learned something from it.
"I will apoligize for coming on so strong, but please have your facts straight first."
No problem about coming on so strong, but I appreciate your apology anyway. If you've learned to research things a little more thoroughly before arguing a point, then you'll be less apt to experience such outbursts, and it will have all been worth it. But if you still don't recognize the facts presented here, then maybe it's all been a waste of time. I just hope you'll keep them in the back of your mind, and recognize them again when you see them in real life.
At least you didn't claim your Sportsman 500 to be as reliable as some other quads, or take the silly stand that you have to own one to know about it. I have to give you credit for that!
Good luck and good riding, Cob.
That's pretty clear to most of us already, Cob. But the info is out there waiting for oyu to find it and learn it. That's why I suggested that you do more research and studying on subjects you wish to debate. As long as you base your knowledge on a subject solely from your own experiences, you often miss reality altogether. I think it's important to broaden your scope of input... find out all you can from other owners of similar machines, to include more experienced and knowledgable riders. Read the magazines, and do your best to sort fact from fiction (Hint: Facts are more often repeated than fiction.) Opinions can offer valuable input, of course, but only when considered along with the truth. For example, not all Polaris riders fully understand how their AWD system works. Many think they have 4WD whenever they push the button, and many think they can have 4WD when descending hills. As you already know, of course, these assumptions are incorrect. That some people believe them to be true, doesn't make them facts.
"I,ve never had the feeling of falling off in a fast corner..."
I don't find that difficult to believe, so I suggest you continue riding at your safe pace. Since I'm more accustomed to quads that stay flater and more level in turns, I'm used to being able to corner harder and faster. When attempting to do that on a Sportsman, it can get scary pretty quickly. It's understandable that not many Sportsman riders ride tright trails at a spirited pace. Trying to corner hard and fast on a Sportsman would be like me trying to do 50 mph on my Honda 300 4x4... it may be possible, but it sure isn't likely!
"...why compare the utility machine to a racing machine,you truly lost me on that one."
Because you proposed the theory that better traction was all-important, and I hope you now understand that it isn't. Sometimes you want all the traction you can get, but not always.
"How many racing machines do you see,try to crawl rocks in the moutains."
Quite a few. Many off-road races include a lot of hills, rocks, etc.
"If your racing down the road at high speed, you sure have no use for 4 wheel, thats why there is a 2wheel button."
You often mention "misinformation", cob, so I can't help but wonder where you get so much of it. Four-wheel drive offers numerous advantages, even on hard-surface roads, and even at high speeds. All those 4WD Porsches and Audis are not, I assure you, off-road vehicles.
"Why once you have rolled sideways would you go back for seconds?"
Cob, just because you don't succeed at something the first time (or even the first hundred times) you try, that doesn't necessarily mean you can't succeed with more practice and the additional knowledge that comes with practice and early failures. How many athletes are winners the first time they compete? You go back for seconds because you learn from your early failures to become better at it. You go back for seconds because you refuse to accept defeat! You go back because you want to learn what it takes to succeed!
"I have learned my machines limitations and try to stay with in them, nothing wrong with pushing them, but why past them more than once."
Cob, I don't think you have any idea how much you reveal about yourself by saying such a thing. I very, very seriously doubt that you have truly learned your machine's limitations. I doubt that one rider in a thousand thoroughly knows his machine's true limitations. A better rider can often do things with the same machine that would amaze the inexperienced pilot. Don't be foolhardy, but don't be too quick to assume or accept limitations, either... for yourself or your machine.
"You still haven't told me where it is that you ride that I can't."
But I did explain why, didn't I? But if you insist on an example... the waterfall about half-way along the area we call "Water World" at Coal Mine Mountain. I've gone up it a number of times on my 300, but so far, no other rider has even tried it. You might make it with ease... but I doubt it. Again at Coal Mine Mt., there are some hills at the old Strip Mine where most 4WD quads (with bold riders) descend safely (albeit nervously), but I've yet to see a Polaris with stock brakes make it down without crashing. And I could go with other examples. But you don't know these places, so what's the point? Except that there are other riders here who DO know the places (Steve has seen the Polaris entertainment I described at the Strip Mine), I could be making them up for all you know. Unless we both know a certain area, describing "spots" and "places" is meaningless. But here's a very basic example that should be easy for you to understand. My Honda 300 is not as wide as a Sportsman 500, so I can go between some trees and rocks that your wider machine can't. And if the only trail up a hill takes you between two objects that are too close together for you to pass, then you can't make it where a smaller quad can. (No, Pontiac lovers... wider is NOT always better!)
"You don't know me, or my riding capabilitys,or what I ride in,why would you assume, you know so much about me when you don't.That was the point of my first post!"
No, Cob, it's you that doesn't know. Whether you accept it or not, people learn a lot more about a writer, just from reading things he writes, than you seem to realize. You already described what you considered a "good trail". You admitted that you don't corner fast enough to feel threatened. You showed the limitations of your knowledge about the mechanics of riding, and about the AWD system on the very quad you own. You suggested taking advice from people you know nothing about. You suggested that you know your machine's limitations. You admitted that you're not likely to try something again after you fail once. Writers commonly even reveal certain things about their level of education, their personality, their maturity, their honesty, their judgement... and much more. And usually, the more you read what they write, the more you can learn about the writer. The image I have of you may not agree with how you see yourself (it rarely ever does), but when you speak or write, you can't help but reveal a lot about yourself.
"The whole point was talk about what you know, not what you think you know."
Do you really not see the folly in such a statement, Cob? Is it so hard for you to understand that when a person believes what he is saying, then he also believes he knows what he is saying? It's a fundamental truth. I'm not saying that you don't "believe" what you're saying, I'm just pointing out that you don't have all the facts, and that you're filling in the blank spaces of your knowledge with a lot of erroneous assumptions, probably based in the easy acceptance as fact, those suppositions that you want to be facts. Sadly, we're all guilty of this from time to time. I even married a second time!
"I talked about the polaris as that is what I know..."
We "know" what we "think" is true. But that doesn't have to prevent us from learning the real truth later on. Again, a lot of Polaris riders "know" they have a 4WD machine... until they learn that it's an AWD machine. And then some don't even understand the difference. Many Honda riders don't "know" the limitations of their limited slip front differential, but they are just as real anyway. No matter how much you feel you "know", don't let that stop you from replacing what you "know" with the truth.
"...you had so much misinformation in there that i felt that I needed to reply."
Sadly, you did reply, and in doing so, you revealed your confusion about certain facts, and what you thought was "misinformation".
"I refered you to someone who is knowledgeable, you say you wouldn't talk to someone you don't know.
Are you innocently overlooking the truth here, Cob, or are you intentionally trying to hide it? Did I say I wouldn't talk to someone I don't know? Did I not state clearly enough for you to understand that I DID talk to other riders before buying my first quad? Once again, you reveal much of yourself by presenting this new example of "misinformation". But for your benefit, I will try to make it even clearer. YOU tell me that Kagey is a knowledgeable ATV mechanic, but do you really expect me to accept this as fact from someone who has already presented so many errors and mistruths? Besides, how do you know about Kagey? HE may say that he is a knowledgeable ATV mechanic, and he may well be, but is an unsupported claim enough to make you believe it? (You're still revealing youself.) Kagey's knowledge of ATV's may be vast and excellent, of course, but we don't know that for a fact. We do know, however, that people who earn their living in the service department of our local dealer, really are mechanics. And once we know where to find real mechanics, it's not difficult to determine their knowledge and experience. Kagey may be a better mechanic than any here in my town, but I don't know that as a fact.
"I don't ride much mud, as I'm in the mountains, majority of our rideing is rocks and rough terain."
Then you were obviously exaggerating and mistaken (more and more revealing) when you said that I could not get to where you ride. I don't think the Sportsman 500 has any meaningful capabilities over my Honda 300 other than speed and mud. If you ride a lot of rocks, then I seriously doubt that you would embarrass my little Honda.
"...anybody that rides the moutains knows what I'm saying."
You really think it's that easy and clear cut, don't you? It's never even dawned on you that some people attempt obstabcles you consider too difficult, has it? Two of us drove all the way from Alabama to Utah to ride one of the ATV Jamborees, only to ride trails that would not have challenged an air conditioned pickup truck! Being in the high mountains does not automatically mean difficult and challenging trails. You still pick and choose. And even though I seldom ride in the flat-lands, I have no doubts that one could find seriously challenging there if you look for it. I've heard about Moab and its challenges, and I think I'd love it. But I've also heard that Jeeps and trucks make the climb there, and I've seen very few places (so far) where jeeps and trucks could drive, that would really challenge a good rider on a properly setup 4x4 ATV. At Tellico Plains, several of us on ATV's RODE where the jeeps and trucks had to be winched.
"I'm sure if you check into it you will find that Kawa has changed thier cluch. It's more along the line of polaris."
I hope you're wrong! That would be a step backward! The Prairies I've ridden had less hesitation and throttle lag than any stock Polaris I ever rode!
"I just felt that you were puting misinformation on here, and wanted to set the record straight."
Well, you may have set some kind of record, alright, but I'm sorry it wasn't what you were hoping for. I just hope you've learned something from it.
"I will apoligize for coming on so strong, but please have your facts straight first."
No problem about coming on so strong, but I appreciate your apology anyway. If you've learned to research things a little more thoroughly before arguing a point, then you'll be less apt to experience such outbursts, and it will have all been worth it. But if you still don't recognize the facts presented here, then maybe it's all been a waste of time. I just hope you'll keep them in the back of your mind, and recognize them again when you see them in real life.
At least you didn't claim your Sportsman 500 to be as reliable as some other quads, or take the silly stand that you have to own one to know about it. I have to give you credit for that!
Good luck and good riding, Cob.
Nov 19, 1999 | 09:06 PM
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Bill just suggestion,I understand your frustration.After hitting your head against a wall for awhile,you feel like the old gal, on tire commercial that I seen here.They say you can return tire,for any reason well she is standing outside and throws it through the window.Just an idea,talk to the local paper or TV ,you maybe surprized what you come up with.Hell if nothing else pickett dealer on a busy saturday.A nice sign saying what you think may speed up the repairs.Later COB
Nov 19, 1999 | 09:20 PM
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Bill, I agree with those who say that your initial problem may have been the dealer's fault, and not necessarily that of the Polaris factory. But I'm with you 100% when you have made it perfectly clear to the manufacturer that the dealer is not handling your problem, and Polaris still fails to even make an attempt sat customer satisfaction.
I've written letters to Honda, Kawasaki, and Suzuki, and most of them generated personal replies. They don't always respond the way we want them to, since they don't always agree without our viewpoint, but at least they respond.
On the other hand, our local Polaris dealer once helped a customer file suit against Polaris! When Polaris canceled the rider's warranty, claiming that he was riding the quad too hard, it was out of the dealer's hands.
And when Polaris sent out their letter stating that their quads are not intended for use in cold weather, that didn't impress me much, either!
Bill, good luck in achieving satisfaction. You paid for it, and you deserve to have it!
Gordon Banks
I've written letters to Honda, Kawasaki, and Suzuki, and most of them generated personal replies. They don't always respond the way we want them to, since they don't always agree without our viewpoint, but at least they respond.
On the other hand, our local Polaris dealer once helped a customer file suit against Polaris! When Polaris canceled the rider's warranty, claiming that he was riding the quad too hard, it was out of the dealer's hands.
And when Polaris sent out their letter stating that their quads are not intended for use in cold weather, that didn't impress me much, either!
Bill, good luck in achieving satisfaction. You paid for it, and you deserve to have it!
Gordon Banks
Nov 19, 1999 | 09:43 PM
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GORDIE;you win I'm sorry butI just can get through the immaturity,that I'm dealing with here.You just know to much about me,from what I write.Your just way to intelligent for me.Now I begin to understand how you know so much.YEAH RIGHT LOL RAVE ON FOOL!!!
Nov 19, 1999 | 09:43 PM
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Dang it Cob don,t get me involved in your arguments with Gordon Liddy , I've got 2 uncles in Pinson and Birmingham Alabama that I visit from time to time. We ride down there I just might run into him I don,t know if my fragile little mind could handle being in the same air as the great and all knowing Gordon Banks. I will agree with Gordon on one issue the 300 4x4 Honda is a great machine it can be made into a real go getter I have modified many of them and made them into real all terain vehicles. My favorite tire combination on the 300 has become the 25"x12' Terra tire this is one of the best swamp riding tires I've ever seen, floatation is unsurpassed. I've done lifts , bore kits,auxillary lights you name it I've likly done it to a 300 they are the most common 4wheeler here so I get to see a lot of them but..... to the Polaris machines credit I have a Polaris 300 4x4 with 5300 miles on it that is box stock that has never left me on the trail and has never stuck in anything that any of these modified Hondas stuck in, Matter of fact I have driven through a lot of them after they were pulled out, I will admit however that I am a highly expierienced rider which I have to believe Gordon must also be there is no substitute for experience on the trail an expierienced rider can make an average machine really shine on the trail whereas an inexpierienced rider can make the best machine look like a boat anchor in a mudhole. As for Cob saying that I am an expierienced mechanic , I am , I have worked on ATVS since they had 3 wheels, also have done cars and tractors even worked on a Nascar Winston racing series Late model for 2 years as a Trans and rear gear specialist. But my knowledge of ATVS is limited to mainly 2 brands Honda and Polaris with most of my regular customers on Honda 300s( I've got the plant close by) can't believe they are gonna discontinue that one. well I've rambled enough for now ,guys quit arguing and ride and enjoy it to each man his own machine this is America you can decide which you want to ride.
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Kevin Gowdy aka Kagey 1999 Polaris Magnum 500
Nov 19, 1999 | 10:54 PM
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Referring back to my earlier post, I have to say that we have a really good Polaris dealer where I live. When the Scrambler's clutch was screwed up and it melted the cover, we brought it to our nearest dealer, and they got it all taken care of, and got Polaris to pay for it even though it was like a year past the end of the warranty, plus we didn't even buy the machine from this dealer! When my Uncle's tire got punctured by a stick, this same dealer went in a new Xplorer 500 crate and got him a brand new tire and wheel for his machine and kept his old one. Also, when my Uncle's Xplorer 500's transmission was screwed up (a bearing missing) the dealer put a lifetime warranty on it himself if anything else goes wrong with it, he'll fix it for free! It did take the dealer like a month to get it fixed, but it wasn't his fault cause he was waiting for Polaris to get him the parts. When he got the parts, the next day it was ready to be picked up! Also, they're open on Sundays which is nice. Anyone got a Polaris dealer like this where they live?