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Old 12-05-1999, 05:25 PM
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Which are better in your opinion on a Honda 300 4x4? 24x9x11, 25x12x12 vampires or 25x9.5x11 bi-claw, 26x12x12 tri-claws. Which will I be able to power the easiest. I want a tire that will do exceptionally well in the mud and then can perform decently on the trails, grass, gravel, dirt, and in the snow. I'm not sure about the 25,26 combo are to big for my machine or am I wrong in my thinking. Please help.
 
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Old 12-05-1999, 08:49 PM
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Matt,I have GoodYear MuddRunners on the 99 Sportsman,and Super Swamper Vampires on the 97 King Quad.In my opionion,these tires are both equal in snow,and mud.On hardpack,the Mudrunners are slightly better.Either way,you wont go wrong.BILL

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Old 12-05-1999, 09:10 PM
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I've always been partial to the Claws on account of what I've heard about how good they ride on hardpack. The mudrunners seem to be very popular as well, though they don't have that nasty look about them.

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Old 12-05-1999, 09:55 PM
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I have a Honda 300 with 25x9.5x12 Vampires on ITP steel wheels. I ride often with two brothers with the same bike, except they have the "old" bi and tri-claws (25") mounted on their stock Honda rims. I have a 2" lift from Highlifter and they do not. They just cannot go where I can. I know the extra height in the center and front of the bike with the lift is a major reason. But, the main difference to me was the slow-speed ride. Their atv's ride was very bumpy and rough as you start out and until you reach 8-10 mph. BUT, the "new" design is supposed to ride smoother. I don't know this for sure. After riding with my friends that have the 300's since '97, they have said the next tire they buy will be the Vampire. I would tell you to take look at the new design bi and triclaw, cause it is a good tire.
 
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Old 12-05-1999, 11:51 PM
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Also, tire pressure has a lot to do with the ride. A friend of mine had 25" blackwaters on the back of a 2wd honda 300 and complained about how bad it rode with them. I asked about what kind of air pressure he was running and he said 15lbs. Problem solved. I told him he had about 10lbs too much.

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Old 12-06-1999, 01:16 AM
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You will also see people running over 30 psi in bigger tires to gain even more height, but that is not the best idea.
 
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Old 12-06-1999, 12:58 PM
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I'm not positive but from the tri claw bi claw website they only redesigned the new 27'' tires.

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Old 12-06-1999, 06:41 PM
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Matt is right. The 26 and smaller tires still ride just as rough. I remeber when my uncle had the old TSL's. The rid was rough but not nearly as bad as when he put the Bi-claws all the way around. On hard pack you have to do atleast 15mph or were a kidney belt from the vibration.

P.s. We tried changing the pressure but not thing works.
 
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Old 12-06-1999, 07:39 PM
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So do you guys think the Vampires ride better than bi-claw/tri-claws or not? How do each perform for traction on all surfaces? And do you guys think 25/26 are to large (I'm concerned with powerloss) for a 300 or not? Thanks for the info.
 
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Old 12-06-1999, 10:25 PM
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Unless you put lots of engine mods on your 300 to get more torgue, then you probably shouldnt get the 26 and 25 inch vamps. Go with the 24 and 25. If you want the flotation go with the 12 inch wide rears. If not go wih the skinny ones, less weight and better self cleaning in the thick stuff.

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