Winches for Rancher
Apr 17, 2000 | 08:29 PM
#2
Pro Rider
Joined: Mar 2000
Posts: 364
Likes: 0
I have used, worked on, repaired and installed both. The T1500 is probably the least inexpensive and pretty reliable. The weak point on these I think is the switch. I use mine frequently for plowing and other accessories and the switch usually lasted about a year. I now use a solenoid setup with a low amperage toggle switch and it has been trouble free for 3 years.
A friend just put agear case on his Warn. The winch seemed to work well but Warn told him the gears were damaged by using it to hold down his ATV on the trailer. I have done this for many years with a Superwinch without problems.
So for the difference in price (75 or more dollars in my area) I dont think the extra cost is justified. I go through my winch once or twice a year for cleaning and lubricating and it has never failed me. Hope this helps!
A friend just put agear case on his Warn. The winch seemed to work well but Warn told him the gears were damaged by using it to hold down his ATV on the trailer. I have done this for many years with a Superwinch without problems.
So for the difference in price (75 or more dollars in my area) I dont think the extra cost is justified. I go through my winch once or twice a year for cleaning and lubricating and it has never failed me. Hope this helps!
Apr 17, 2000 | 09:23 PM
#3
Trailblazer
Joined: Feb 2000
Posts: 97
Likes: 0
trailboss450,
I have a Warn A2000 on my Rancher and I also use it to hold it down on the trailer. What did Warn say about using it this way? Should I stop? I didn't think that this could hurt it.
I like the winch and the way it mounts. Its the only one that I have used so I don't know if its better than the Superwinch or not. I do know that I will never be without a winch on my quad again.
I have a Warn A2000 on my Rancher and I also use it to hold it down on the trailer. What did Warn say about using it this way? Should I stop? I didn't think that this could hurt it.
I like the winch and the way it mounts. Its the only one that I have used so I don't know if its better than the Superwinch or not. I do know that I will never be without a winch on my quad again.
Apr 17, 2000 | 09:35 PM
#4
Pro Rider
Joined: Feb 2000
Posts: 1,412
Likes: 0
LarryK:
Either of the two winches would work great for you. It is true that Superwinch has had some trouble with their switch type going out on them, but they just came out with a brand new design a few weeks ago, that seems to be a lot better. It was on the front page of the ATV Connection Magazine thing a few weeks ago, entitled Superwinch Switch, or something like that. Might be worth a look. I've got the Warn A2000 on my 'Cat, and absolutely love it. Why did I by Warn? Paid $69 for it with the 'Cat, but have also had years of experience with the 8000, 9000 and 12000 lbs Warn winches, and never had a problem with them. Oops, I take that back. I did manage to strip a gear on the XD9000i about a year and a half after I bought it. The warranty had expired, but I called Warn anyway to see what they could tell me. They said send it back, they'd look at it. A couple weeks later, I got the winch back, sent UPS, completely rebuilt, brand new parts inside, and a letter thanking me for my business. That was rather impressive, so I've stuck with them since. Anyhow, which ever winch you choose, I would definately recommend also purchasing a good ****** block. It doubles your winching power, and makes the winch more useable. The best ****** block I've found is made by Superwinch. Can be ordered through AW Direct for $31.95, has a 9,000 lbs rating, and is only about 6" long, including hook. Also weighs only 3 lbs. Small but tough as heck, works great.
Good luck with your decision.
Mike
Either of the two winches would work great for you. It is true that Superwinch has had some trouble with their switch type going out on them, but they just came out with a brand new design a few weeks ago, that seems to be a lot better. It was on the front page of the ATV Connection Magazine thing a few weeks ago, entitled Superwinch Switch, or something like that. Might be worth a look. I've got the Warn A2000 on my 'Cat, and absolutely love it. Why did I by Warn? Paid $69 for it with the 'Cat, but have also had years of experience with the 8000, 9000 and 12000 lbs Warn winches, and never had a problem with them. Oops, I take that back. I did manage to strip a gear on the XD9000i about a year and a half after I bought it. The warranty had expired, but I called Warn anyway to see what they could tell me. They said send it back, they'd look at it. A couple weeks later, I got the winch back, sent UPS, completely rebuilt, brand new parts inside, and a letter thanking me for my business. That was rather impressive, so I've stuck with them since. Anyhow, which ever winch you choose, I would definately recommend also purchasing a good ****** block. It doubles your winching power, and makes the winch more useable. The best ****** block I've found is made by Superwinch. Can be ordered through AW Direct for $31.95, has a 9,000 lbs rating, and is only about 6" long, including hook. Also weighs only 3 lbs. Small but tough as heck, works great.
Good luck with your decision.
Mike
Apr 18, 2000 | 03:48 PM
#6
Pro Rider
Joined: Mar 2000
Posts: 364
Likes: 0
Here is the info we got from WARN...
The problem was the plastic (injection molded) assembly cover. The inside of the cover has the gear teeth molded into the plastic. The metal gear mechanism pushes against the inside of the plastic cover and spins, which then rotates the drum. The teeth on the inside of the cover were stripped in 3 locations, where the metal gear mechanism was pushing.
Warn said the damage was the result of using the winch to secure the ATV. You should not use it to permanently hold a load, instead use the tie-downs. With the bouncing of the trailer, the metal teeth of the gear assembly were bouncing against the plastic teeth of the assembly cover. Plastic versus metal; the plastic part lost. I guess this tells me to NOT use the winch for securing your quad.
The Warn is a good winch I personally dont like the use of plastic gears. The Superwinch uses a cast aluminum drum and spool and steel gears.
Hope this tells you what you need to know.
The problem was the plastic (injection molded) assembly cover. The inside of the cover has the gear teeth molded into the plastic. The metal gear mechanism pushes against the inside of the plastic cover and spins, which then rotates the drum. The teeth on the inside of the cover were stripped in 3 locations, where the metal gear mechanism was pushing.
Warn said the damage was the result of using the winch to secure the ATV. You should not use it to permanently hold a load, instead use the tie-downs. With the bouncing of the trailer, the metal teeth of the gear assembly were bouncing against the plastic teeth of the assembly cover. Plastic versus metal; the plastic part lost. I guess this tells me to NOT use the winch for securing your quad.
The Warn is a good winch I personally dont like the use of plastic gears. The Superwinch uses a cast aluminum drum and spool and steel gears.
Hope this tells you what you need to know.
Apr 18, 2000 | 09:33 PM
#7
Trailblazer
Joined: Feb 2000
Posts: 97
Likes: 0
Thanks for the information. It makes sense. I guess these winches are made to pull heavy loads at slow speeds rather than the quick hard pulls that the bounce in the trailer causes. It is convenient to tie down with the winch but I guess I'll have to buy a few more tie downs. They are cheaper than a new winch.
Trending Topics
Apr 20, 2000 | 12:35 AM
#9
Pro Rider
Joined: Sep 1999
Posts: 1,057
Likes: 0
Just something funny, I guess. I was at Tractor Supply and they had a Warn A2000 marked with a price of $765. I think that must have supposed to have been on like an 8000 pound trcuk winch. I ask them if they sold a lot of those and they guy said yes. When I showed him the price he nearly fainted. Accidents happen.
