"dude, you wish, where are you from, if your close to TX maybe we can line your 265R up with my piped DS and we'll change your opinion on that last outcome you posted.
Jetjock16"

Im in NM, i took the ds from 4th and up with bald holeshots! he has new razrs. We raced again on pavement and i took him by even more, even on top end. We switched bikes and we got the same results, the ds is just to heavy.

"why race a stock ds if yours isn't stock? Try putting that 250 against any moded ds and then report on it. Jump on the bombardier forum there's plenty all over the us on there. And they all seem pretty cool. I'm sure any of them will jump on the chance of showing the type of speed a ds has."

Whether mines is stock or not the ds is a 650! dude im in a 265, arent 2-strokes amazing???

 

Here's a video of a mildly piped 250R racing a bone stock DS650 in the sand for what it's worth.

250R vs DS65 vs Banshee

 

you 4-strokers crack me up man.

 

I think I could have competed in that race with my old 82 ATC 250r three wheeler.

 

ds's are slow, my piped R stomped all over 2 piped and k+n filter., plus god knows what ds 650s.
EASILY!!

 

i raced andrew thomas. hes a member here but hasn't visited since december. last summer at silver lake. i have stock cylinder ported. anyways his ds couldn't hang. he was still happy tho he was outrunning a cdale speed that day.

 

I guess it all comes down to who has the most mods then...... Last time i was out at the dunes i saw many races it but botom line was SAMCOEDS over from the DS forum running an 830kit on Alky and nitro's, something like that, there wasnt a 250R as far as the eye could see who could keep up, Banshee's or Raptors either...... Thats one fast bike hes got...... I think hes got near $10k in the motor alone
Jetjock16

 

i guess the fast guys were at home then?

 

"I guess it all comes down to who has the most mods then...... Last time i was out at the dunes i saw many races it but botom line was SAMCOEDS over from the DS forum running an 830kit on Alky and nitro's, something like that, there wasnt a 250R as far as the eye could see who could keep up, Banshee's or Raptors either...... Thats one fast bike hes got...... I think hes got near $10k in the motor alone
Jetjock16"

Im pretty sure Dabeechmans 370 would tear that ds a new hole. A 4stroke takes atleast 3times the size of the motor to keep up with a 2stroke.

 

If not mine, im sure somebody else's would. Im not even saying we're fast. Just that some guys think they are faster then they really are. Dont get me wrong please. We had a ds 650 with about 4k in the motor. At that time it was fast to us. But then we sold it and got into 2-strokes, and it was a huge difference in speed and acceloration. The thumpers can be made to run hard, but they will almost always consume more bank account then a 2-stoke. That 830 on alk/no2, makes maybe 70-80 horses and cost 10k in motor work correct? we can build a 65-70 horse gas honda with 1500 bucks. Its cool to make a fast thumper though because they seem to be the future of rec sports. I have no problem with them [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]