300 winchester short mag.

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Dec 9, 2004 | 11:58 PM
  #1  
i am 13 years old.i weigh 130lbs and i'm 5'7'' and i currently hunt with a remington model 742 30-06 and remington model 1100 12 guage.i am looking for a new rifle and i'm thinking about getting a 300 short mag. would this gun kick to much for me or would it be a good choice?
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Dec 10, 2004 | 02:43 AM
  #2  
300 winchester short mag.
A friend of mine bought one of those, with a heavier 24" barrel. He's an adult with lots of firearm experience. He says it whops you pretty good.

Unless you're looking at western mule deer or elk hunts and need 400 yard energy, I'd stay in a smaller class for the whitetails etc. If it were me in your neck of the woods I'd be going more to 7MM-08, 260 Rem, that kind of thing for a big game rifle. Heck a 7mm-08 you could do elk with that. The great big whopper mags just beat you up and burn lots of powder unless you go for big long range game.
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Dec 10, 2004 | 04:10 AM
  #3  
300 winchester short mag.
Kind of like shady said. If you don't need to go with something bigger, I wouldn't.
Unless you are going to shoot bigger game, and want to shoot out to 400 yard or so, no need.

You honeslty don't need a 300 wsm or win mag. I think if you were set on it though, you could handle it. They kick a bit, but when you are shooting at a deer you don't notice it. Just make sure you don't have to take 10 shots to sight it in.
I have the 742 and the 7400 (both same gun 7400 just newer). I'm pretty comfy shooting out to 300 - 350 yards. Zeroed at 200 yds, I'm only off by about 9 inches at 300.
If you really want to change you could go with a bolt action vs your semi-auto you have now.
the .06 or even the 7mm bolt would do you fine.

Again, it honestly just depend on what you are going to use the gun for.

Good Luck
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Dec 10, 2004 | 02:26 PM
  #4  
300 winchester short mag.
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Originally posted by: hondaguy13
i am 13 years old.i weigh 130lbs and i'm 5'7'' and i currently hunt with a remington model 742 30-06 and remington model 1100 12 guage.i am looking for a new rifle and i'm thinking about getting a 300 short mag. would this gun kick to much for me or would it be a good choice?
No, I wouldn't use a .300 for deer (I assume that is what you will be hunting down there). If you do a lot of hunting for caribou, elk, brown bear or moose then look at the .300's, otherwise it is not needed. Perfect gun for you would be a .308, I got one when I was 14 and loved it, great light gun with good ballistics. If you do want something on the bigger side check out the .270 or 30-06's. Main thing is that you get something you feel good shooting with, last thing you want to do is be thinking about 'flinching' when a deer is in the scope!

That said, I do shoot a 300, even for deer. Good luck!!!
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Dec 10, 2004 | 09:28 PM
  #5  
300 winchester short mag.
If you set on buying a 300 mag and worried about recoil look at the browning BAR. The semi really knocks down the recoil as compared to a bolt action rifle. Seeing that you are hunting with a 30-06. This is probally the most versatile calibre on the market. It is an old calibre but has stood the test of time. Myself I use a 270 for deer and moose. If you are not shooting out to 400 yards, you don't need the magnum. Just remember to purchase a gun you are comfortable to shoot. Shot placement is the most important aspect of shooting not the size of the calibre. Myself I was also considering a 300 WSM and eventually decided on a 270. For the areas I hunt and range I am shooting I did not need the magnum.Good luck on your purchase.
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Dec 11, 2004 | 12:19 AM
  #6  
300 winchester short mag.
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Originally posted by: Catterman
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Originally posted by: hondaguy13
i am 13 years old.i weigh 130lbs and i'm 5'7'' and i currently hunt with a remington model 742 30-06 and remington model 1100 12 guage.i am looking for a new rifle and i'm thinking about getting a 300 short mag. would this gun kick to much for me or would it be a good choice?
No, I wouldn't use a .300 for deer (I assume that is what you will be hunting down there). If you do a lot of hunting for caribou, elk, brown bear or moose then look at the .300's, otherwise it is not needed. Perfect gun for you would be a .308, I got one when I was 14 and loved it, great light gun with good ballistics. If you do want something on the bigger side check out the .270 or 30-06's. Main thing is that you get something you feel good shooting with, last thing you want to do is be thinking about 'flinching' when a deer is in the scope!

That said, I do shoot a 300, even for deer. Good luck!!!

a .308 wouldn't kick to mkuch for me.i've always thought of them as a hard kicking rifle
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Dec 11, 2004 | 12:23 AM
  #7  
300 winchester short mag.
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Originally posted by: ShadyRascal
A friend of mine bought one of those, with a heavier 24" barrel. He's an adult with lots of firearm experience. He says it whops you pretty good.

Unless you're looking at western mule deer or elk hunts and need 400 yard energy, I'd stay in a smaller class for the whitetails etc. If it were me in your neck of the woods I'd be going more to 7MM-08, 260 Rem, that kind of thing for a big game rifle. Heck a 7mm-08 you could do elk with that. The great big whopper mags just beat you up and burn lots of powder unless you go for big long range game.
my longest shot would probably be around 300 yards and the shortest about 50-75 yards.i will be hunting whitetail.i am mainly looking for gun that not many people have and that would fit needs
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Dec 11, 2004 | 12:46 AM
  #8  
300 winchester short mag.
If you want something not many people have, look into a 260 Remington. Made on a 308 case. Very good ballistically, a good friend of mine has done a lot of handloading in this caliber and had a couple of long range rifles built in it. Shoots prairie dogs at like 900 yards and stuff, a real expert. He set up a couple of these as whitetail rifles and says they are sweet as a mother's love. Little recoil, great trajectory, all the downrange power you need. You may want to be a handloader to optimize your options in this caliber. There ya go.
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Dec 11, 2004 | 11:35 AM
  #9  
300 winchester short mag.
thanx for all the help.it is greatly appreciated
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Dec 11, 2004 | 10:34 PM
  #10  
300 winchester short mag.
When I graduated college my parents gave me a Thompson Center Encore rifle in a .308 caliber. The gun was then sent out and rechambered to a 300 WSM. I have used this gun for 2 years of hunting now and I love it. I have shot deer ranging from 50 yards to 150 yards and after both shots the deer ran no more then 20 yards and died. I also shot a 200 pound black bear at 40 yards and it ran about 10 feet. All of these animals were killed using 180 grain nosler partition bullets.

Prior to the 300 wsm I used a .308 ruger ultralight with 180 grain noslers and a .270 Ruger Number 1 with 165 grain noslers and I did notice a little bit more "kick" when using the encore. My Encore will probably kick more because it is a smaller and more compact rifle compared to others though, but I have not shot any other rifles in the 300 wsm configuration.

When we were breaking in the rifle and developing a load for it I shot any 130, 150, 165 and 180 grain loads through it. We ended up going with the 180's because we were getting a more consistent group compared to the others, but that just may be my gun. I am surely you could get away with shooting a lighter load for deer or any other game you are hunting, but it all depends on how consistent the gun will shoot.

I am very pleased with my encore in the 300 wsm configuration because of the accuracy I have with it as well as the pure nockdown power the load has when it hits its target. Plus, its pretty nice to have a "unique" gun then others have.
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