.22 Caliber Rifles
#1
I am thinking about buying 1 or 2 new rifles. For Bolt Action I am looking at the following: Browning T-Bolt, CZ 452 American, Weatherby XXII. As for Semi-Auto I am looking at: Thompson Center Classic R-55, Marlin Model 60, Ruger 10/22. Also considering for .17 HMR, a Marlin 917V. The Weatherby would probably be out of my price range with a $900 price tag, but the rest are a possibility. If you could pick 2 of the bunch that I mentioned, which ones would you buy, and why? Any advice or opinions are appreciated! The only .22 I have right now is a Winchester 67A single shot.[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]
#2
You cant beat the quality, and reliability of the ruger 10/22...plus the aftermarket for these guns is enormous. You can stick a 50 round magazine in them straight out of the box and have a blast, or go all out and do new stocks, barrels, or whatever else floats your boat.
As for bolt action, why do you want one? In a larger caliber hunting rifle, I can see...supposedly a bolt action rifle will hold the shell better and be much more accurate out of the box, but with a .22 it really wont make a difference. A 10/22 with a bull barrel and a good scope will be extremely accurate with a good shooter.
Right now, I have a remington 597 which I wouldn't recommend to anybody...the magazine and action design is far inferior to the ruger, which I will be picking up soon. The 597 looks good, but it jams up more than any other gun I have ever shot.
here is my remington 597
the pic is huge, so I will just post the link.....
remington 597 lss
and here is the ruger I plan on picking up soon:
As for bolt action, why do you want one? In a larger caliber hunting rifle, I can see...supposedly a bolt action rifle will hold the shell better and be much more accurate out of the box, but with a .22 it really wont make a difference. A 10/22 with a bull barrel and a good scope will be extremely accurate with a good shooter.
Right now, I have a remington 597 which I wouldn't recommend to anybody...the magazine and action design is far inferior to the ruger, which I will be picking up soon. The 597 looks good, but it jams up more than any other gun I have ever shot.
here is my remington 597
the pic is huge, so I will just post the link.....
remington 597 lss
and here is the ruger I plan on picking up soon:
#4
get the ruger, If u want u can do what i did and convert it to a .17 mach 2 from the 10/22 and u can have both in one. the conversion is from eabco and u can get it shipped straight to your house no FLL needed it is a diffrent bolt and barrel.
Hope u dont mind me bragging alittle but my .17 is faster at 100 yards then a 22 is at the muzzle. dead acurate and fast. i dunno if u shot a sign or the like before but 22 will go thru but it puts dent and almost stops when it hits. .17 burns thru it no dent clean hole and still carries afterwards. Conversion is 160$ if i remember right. but its worth it.
Hope u dont mind me bragging alittle but my .17 is faster at 100 yards then a 22 is at the muzzle. dead acurate and fast. i dunno if u shot a sign or the like before but 22 will go thru but it puts dent and almost stops when it hits. .17 burns thru it no dent clean hole and still carries afterwards. Conversion is 160$ if i remember right. but its worth it.
#5
sorry to add but 22s are some dirty rounds and accuracy depends on clean bore and i mean cleaning after 100 rds is almost mandatory. but i agree about bolt actions in 22 just a pain and no more accurate in 22 caliber then semi auto.
#6
I've had a Ruger 10/22 for many years now and fired many thousands of rounds thru it. Being one of the very early ones this rifle has been hauled around in pickups and sundry other conveyance and generally had the heck beat out of it. It's topped with a Weaver 3 power scope that has put up with the abuse for these many years. Ultra reliable and very accurate I have to agree with the other posts about this rifle.
Marlin has been making some very nice bolt action rifles in both 22 and the new 17 calibers. I understand why you would want a rim fire bolt rifle for longer range shooting even tho they offer very little or nothing in the way of increased accuracy over the 10/22. Something about a bolt gun with a long barrel and good scope for pushing the range limits of a cartridge. If I were adding a new bolt rifle to the rack I would consider something other than a rim fire. Perhaps something on the order of a 17 Remington or a 223.
I do not agree with shooting signs to test the penetration ability or accuracy of any cartridge. It's vandalism and gives a bad name to shooters in general.
This last part is just my opinion and I could be wrong. But you know I'm not.
Marlin has been making some very nice bolt action rifles in both 22 and the new 17 calibers. I understand why you would want a rim fire bolt rifle for longer range shooting even tho they offer very little or nothing in the way of increased accuracy over the 10/22. Something about a bolt gun with a long barrel and good scope for pushing the range limits of a cartridge. If I were adding a new bolt rifle to the rack I would consider something other than a rim fire. Perhaps something on the order of a 17 Remington or a 223.
I do not agree with shooting signs to test the penetration ability or accuracy of any cartridge. It's vandalism and gives a bad name to shooters in general.
This last part is just my opinion and I could be wrong. But you know I'm not.
#7
hey i never said to shoot a sign I asked if he had or similar material.and shooters in general make a bad name for themselves by not being careful. and i like how u quote hitler there, U must not see how america is doing same thing. every gun has someones name on it regardless of who owns now. and point of fact is he asked your opinion about a 22 caliber round. a 22 is a ok weapon for plinking cans at distances of 100 yrds tops the length has nothing to do with it cause if a bullet is spun more then it's made for it will tumble. and i agree with your fact about tossing gun around and it still being good shooter,even though u had to resight scope everytime u shoot. thats nature of scopes. a 22 has a 7 inch drop after 100 yrds and i like longer range shots and have made 22 rounds hit targets at distances of 300 yrds or more but u could have thrown bullet and had same impact power on target and u will never have a good group with a 22 theres no shot group that u could ever make twice with a 22. and that comes from how they are manufactered. in bulk. so in my opinion a 22 is fun and can be challenging but the latter is because of all the variables that come from a cheap round. I'm sorry to be so matter of fact about this but i have more trigger time then u would believe. and my weapon of choice is my A3 in a .223 caliber. but tencubed must long for the good ole days cause hes quoting them now.
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#10
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: Night Raider
If you want a really nice gun, take a look at the Sako Quad, four barrels, four different cartidges. I's a bit pricey though, I'll stick with my 10/22.</end quote></div>
Yeah, That Sako Quad looks like it would be one heck of a rifle to own, but you are right, at $1,739.00 it is out of my price range for now![img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]
If you want a really nice gun, take a look at the Sako Quad, four barrels, four different cartidges. I's a bit pricey though, I'll stick with my 10/22.</end quote></div>
Yeah, That Sako Quad looks like it would be one heck of a rifle to own, but you are right, at $1,739.00 it is out of my price range for now![img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img]


