<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: scrambler400enoge


Do you mean flint michigan just north of detroit?I have family in detroit and flint.i asked because the ones in flint have quads that they ride on.</end quote></div>


That's the one. The oldest continually inhabited part of Michigan, Vehicle City, 66 miles northwest of Detroit, building carriages since the 1840's when there were no motors in Motown, and building motor carriages ever since, birthplace of GM and the UAW, 7th most dangerous city in the country, 5th largest city in the state, and 3rd most miserable city in the country to live in. There's no place like home. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/img] http://www.michiganhistorymaga.../historicarchesfj1.jpg

P.S. Saginaw Street downtown is still paved with bricks like it was back in the 19th century and the arches with signs on them are back, but no cable cars. Driving on bricks in the winter sucks. They're slippery when wet.

 

Got some cousins there in flint.Go to a cathlic school where people smoke crack.They got a king quad 400 or 300 can't remember they ride alot there and hunt.Auto industry is big in our family.My grandfather was an exec at ford,my uncle(his son) is the guy who releases the recalls for ford.My other uncle worked gm white collar in downtown detroit.

 

The kids smoking crack may be the ones seeing mountain lions and panthers around here. I didn't know they taught that at Catholic schools. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]

 

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: MooseHenden

It looked like it had a long tail. Never heard of a black bobcat. Don't all bobcats have a bobbed tail? Just curious.</end quote></div>

Well a bobcat is pretty much the same as a Lynx...... and there are black Lynx and they have long tails....

Whatever it is, I don't believe it is a true Panther...... only because they are generally warm weather animals and are not indigenous to that area. Unless it is an escaped exotic or a zoo refugee I don't see how it can be a Panther.

 

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: ss97

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: MooseHenden



It looked like it had a long tail. Never heard of a black bobcat. Don't all bobcats have a bobbed tail? Just curious.</end quote></div>



Well a bobcat is pretty much the same as a Lynx...... and there are black Lynx and they have long tails....



Whatever it is, I don't believe it is a true Panther...... only because they are generally warm weather animals and are not indigenous to that area. Unless it is an escaped exotic or a zoo refugee I don't see how it can be a Panther.</end quote></div>


This is the only panther I've ever seen!

 

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: jumbofrank

The kids smoking crack may be the ones seeing mountain lions and panthers around here.</end quote></div>


Or the ones that steal you quads.[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif[/img]

 

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: scrambler400enoge

<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>Originally posted by: jumbofrank



The kids smoking crack may be the ones seeing mountain lions and panthers around here.</end quote></div>





Or the ones that steal you quads.[img][/img]</end quote></div>


Yeah that too. As soon as school lets out for summer it's open season on my quads. They don't have anything better to do all day and the only guy they caught was a juvenile.

 

I live in west central Wis., in the area I ride atvs and hunt the same area I have had people till me about seeing cougars. I have was been a person that dosen't believe or disbelieve something until I see it. Now I do believe there are cougars in Wis. I have seen one myself but I have seen tracks, the tracks I saw were about 3 inchs across with on claw marks and there is only one animal that I know of that walks wiyh out leaving claw marks and thats a cat. The DNR in Wis. are finely admitting that cougars are here. The police shoot one in between Milwaukee and Chicago this last year, and DNA test shows that it was wild and came in form S.D. after all cougars were in all lower 48 state at one time. And yes there is black cougars they are rare but they are out there. So, sgueege till the people who doubt you to take a long walk off a short pier. You saw what you saw! This last summer I saw something I thought was a black panther about a mile from my house people told me I was cazy but it made the hair on the back of my neck stand up. I called the DNR and they told me I probable saw a fisher. They also said anything is possible. Rebel700

 

There have been "panther" sighting in my area for ages. Every so often you hear so-and-so seen a panther. It's usually some guy coming home from the bar and sees a black dog walking across a field and gets himself all in a dither that he's seen a "panther".

About 4 years ago I was coming home from work and seen a couple of locals pulled over on the gravel road about 2 miles from my house. I pulled up to talk to them and they were so excited they were about to bust. They were watching a "panther" walking down the fencerow. Sure enough there was a black animal wandering down the fencerow towards the neighboring farmer's place. They were sure that "panther" was going down to his barnyard to prey on his cows which were up by the barn.

As "panther" made his way down the fencerow towards the barn and cow lot one of the guys began fumbling through his truck trying to find ammo for his rifle so he could kill this "panther" before it got to the farmer's cows. Alas, he couldn't find any bullets and we watched as the mystical beast walked past the cattle and up towards the barn. They were in a panic at this point because they thought the beat might attack the farmer as he was out doing chores.

They tore down the road and into the farmyard to warn the farmer about the "panther" stalking his homestead when they seen the beast sprawled out in front of the milking parlor. Did the farmer shoot the "panther"? Did it eat the farmer or his stock and was lying there digesting his meal? Nothing so dramatic. It was a Labrador Retriever that had walked down the fencerow and into the barn yard. Not a panther just they guy's dog coming home from the back machine shed.

I tried to tell them the entire time "guys, that's just a dog." but they were positive it was a panther. I tried to explain that the farmer in question had not only a lab but a black colored coon hound. Oh no. This was a panther. Why just a few weeks before one had been spotted and they'd heard that the conservation department was secretly releasing them (a perennial favorite among the panther enthusiasts by the way).

The point of the story is that despite the place being supposedly crawling with panthers, no has shot one, caught one in a trap or hit one with a car. No carcass has ever been found. Until someone come up with something other than blurry camera images or videos that have nothing to give scale or eyewitness reports one has to conclude they're nothing but figments of overactive imaginations and honest, well meaning misidentifications of common animals.

 

It is possible to have exotic animals in places they don't belong. People get them as "pets", sometimes illegally. When they feel it is too much to have one as a pet they dump it off in the nearest woods. I was out shooting target practice in some sand pits before the area got developed. I saw a gold colored pheasent with a red head. A couple days later there was a parakeet at my mother's yard on a bird feeder. I read the paper a few days later and there was a story about a bird collector who had a tree break the glass of a greenhouse he used for exotic birds. I showed the article to the people who didn't believe me. (And, yes, at that time in my life I did drink)