Oxygen,
The modules are basicly the same so it is up to you which one you go for. I have 4 types but the better response so far are from Nabors and DG's they will stand by their systems that is a big benefit. I haven't tried Kuny Techs system but I understand it works very well also.

 

How do I order the DG system and what is the current price?
Thanks!

 

Alltoys, is your measurements on a 2002 igniter? I have measured mine and it never runs above 10 degs. unless it is going over about 3 MPH, no matter what RPM I run. I have seen Kawasaki's timing sheet for the igniter and my measurements verified the sheet specs. Have you modified yours somehow? My timing at 2500RPM's is exactly 10 degs. if under 3MPH or about 15 degs. with the Holeshot and without it if I run above 3MPH for some time. Are you saying that the igniter you have only has one timing curve programmed into it? Thanks.

 

Prairie633,
I have had 3 igniters on my 02 mostly as I was trying to get into the guts of the unit to see what made them tick. All of them have a gentle curve after 1500 rpm up to 5000 rpm where maximum timeing is reached. The speed censor sends an accumulated pulse at 3 different times according to speed which helps for timeing advance. With the 3 I tested there was not one that worked the same some 02's have a higher soft limit than others so top end is varied from one machine to another. I remember most US models were faster than comparable quads in Canada, was the Canadian ones made slower who knows. I had one of the slower ones almost 10mph slower on top end so I decided to do some improving in that department. I have not had the chance to try an 03 but will here soon. After testing the modules I have found that all are not created equal and at least 2 do have an advantage over the others. I have had another ignition in my 02 for some time untill I traded it for a P700. The 700 was out classed by the 650 with a better ignition I hope when I install the ignition on the P700 it will also come alive.

Is there a chance you can send me the chart from Kawi with the timeing curve Kawi has not been very forthcoming with me in the past.

 

Prairie633,
There was something you said in your post where timeing does not change unless the machine registers above 3mph. I did not respond to this as I was not sure so I checked my notes here is what I found. I used a timeing light that has a timeing advance circuit on it if you have not used one it will pick up the timeing that is produced by the ignition and the firing of the spark plug. You can change between either physically advancing the timeing light or by what the spark plug produces. It did not matter whether the quad was in neutral or in gear to advance the timeing it did how ever reveal there was a slight difference when there was a load on the motor. I paid more attention to where full timeing was achieved and where advance started the rest was linear till 5000 - 5500 where it leveled off stayed constant to 6200 - 6500 rpm. Of course then it dropped off dramatically.

By now this is old news it doesn't interest me anymore I am excited to have a new ignition to play with the old system is meant to keep the motor detuned. Slightly more timeing and higher rpm say around 9000 rpm will put a stock 650 in the 57 HP range.