Like to hear from Holeshot owners, seems like a few people had trouble, maybe with installation.
Is it worth the money and does it work only from a dead stop??

Thanks

 

No trouble with mine, I have a DG module. Some people have hooked them up wrong. That causes problems. Nobody I talked to has hurt their CDI, so you can't loose.


It is worth the money. I used to think my 650 was out of tune because it lagged from a stop. I couldn't get it tuned right. Now that I have the holeshot, it runns correctly all the time and does not have a takeoff lag.

The 650 only has 2 timing curves. A normal one and a very retarded one. the retarded one is used for reverse and for belt failure mode. However, the 650 also starts out on the retarded curve and the CDI gradually switches to the normal curve as soon as you go over 3mph. The holeshot module keeps the 650 CDI on the normal curve by fooling it into think you are moving over 3mph. This gives you more takeoff power.

The holeshot has no other affect than that. So basically, if you have been driving over 3mph for a while, the holeshot has no effect. It only affects the engine when you stop (or go under under 3mph).

 

EDIT: Nyroc is faster at typing than I am.


IMO it depends on what you want and expect. I'm not taking a side.

Yes, it only works from a standstill (or under 3mph). After that the CDI timing map takes over.

I wouldn't get it if you are expecting more power for general riding. It will help in "holeshot" situations like drag racing or mud bog racing, etc... where off the line power is beneficial.

There are other ways to get holeshot power as well. Primary shims, springs, weights, and a timing key come to mind.

Installation is pretty simple. The instructions should be clear enough for most. I only recall two failed units that were replaced. There also have been some issues related to improper installation it seems.

 

Oxygen,
The only problem with the modules are if someone hooks them up wrong which has not damaged anything or if someone has a red EPI spring or Polaris orange spring. These springs take away any holeshot the modules would produce because of the higher rpm engagement discussed by Nyroc and DWB. Without the added springs the modules work great if you have the higher engageing springs then the holeshot is not worth the money.

 

Oxygen- I think it works great. I have 27" mudlites and without the module I start out like a slug, but with it I wheelie. Pretty big difference if you ask me. Easily worth $100. - Matt

 

Thanks Guys
You told me what I needed to know, I have been trying to tune out a factory
defect as far as I am concerned. I know Kawasaki was concerned about people getting
hurt by doing unexpected wheelies, but I think they overdid it!!!!
They could make a pile of money by selling the original CDI as a Racing Part thru the Dealers.
Yamaha sells stuff like that, Kawasaki is missing the boat and a bunch of money.

 

Alltoys, I don't understand the issue with higher engagement springs? If the timing is limited to 10 degrees until the Prairie is going 3 MPH, what difference does it make to the Holeshot if the CVT starts at 1500 RPM or 3000 RPM from a stop. At 3000 RPM the timing would be around 18 degrees with the DG Holeshot vs. only 10 degrees, I would think that higher engagement would make the difference even more evident? If you run the engine to 7000 RPM without moving or ride it with the igniter pink wire disconnected, the timing will never go above 10 degrees and you can really tell it. Please clarify what you mean.

 

I ran a module with the EPI red spring - the module made a big difference even with the higher engagement. I have a bypass hooked up to the module so it was easy to see the difference.

 

Prairie633,
When the red spring engages roughly at 2500 rpm the timeing curve at that point is almost the same as the module puts out for timeing very little difference so you are negating most of the benefits of the module. On start up there is 10* untill rpm jumps to 1500 rpm this is the initial lag you will feel on WOT. The springs take away from this timeing lag because of the higher rpm engagement. At 2500 rpm timeing advance is around 22* where as the modules are at 26*-28* a slight difference the difference will be more notceable depending on rotational mass on your machine. A person who has dunflops, red spring, and module will notice more of a benefit than a person who has 28 inch Outlaws. With that same person that has the red spring, 28 inch Outlaws he will not notice any distinct advantage the modules would produce. There are benefits to either way, higher ingageing springs or modules, or better yet, both!!

I prefer the modules as I like to have a progressive take off where a hard hitting spring engagement would not let that happen. This is my preferance I like to rock crawl, play in tight wood trails a higher engageing spring is not my way of riding. I think KOD has done some testing on different springs it would be interesting to test the module(s) with these different springs to see what is the best combination or if any at all?

 

Hey Alltoys
I agree on the belt engagement, I like it stock for my type of riding.
Does the Holeshot give you 28 degrees right at start up??
Does this make it start better and run cooler at idle maybe??

Thanks