Which tires work the best for hardpack snow, ice ect. Also what are the best screws to use ? What is the best configuration for screws, the more the merrier? What is the best method for holding the screws in?. I more than likely will be keeping the tires for ice/snow only.

I want to be able to run my V when there is not a lot of fresh snow for the sleds. I will probably not be racing, just booting around the lake for the winter.

Question, questions, questions!!

 

I would put the v-chains on the v! and stud the front tires which I would put maxxis tires on wide in the back and narrow upfront. If you were taking about the Prairie you can not beat the 589 28" but I don't think I would like those tires on the V even though I hardly use 4wd in the snow.

 

1st off... I use small grade 8 bolts, with washers & nyloc nuts... then chop them off at a 45* angle, to sharpen, for serious use...

for circle track racing, & course racing, with my 750 Prairie, I run a set of ITP Baja wheels, 9" X 9"... on the rears, with a set of 22" X 12.5" X 9" Interco TSL's... 3-4 bolts per lug... the lugs on the TSL's, are short, & have the middle hollowed out, & the nuts fit nicely between the ridges on the lugs... the lug pattern of the TSL's, will launch the quad forward, without comparision, but still allow some sideways slide for corners... .... when running these rears, I match them up with a set of 489 XT's 23" X 8" X 12", with 2-3 rows of bolts radially around the center of the tires... the 489 XT's are a tough 6 ply tire...

for drag racing, ( where weight is a concern ), I just use the some stock Dunlops... the rear 650 Prairie tires I mount on the fronts, with 3-4 ice screws on each center "W" lug... the rears, I use the stock rear tires off of our 300 Prairie 25" X 11" X 10", with ice screws on the lugs similarly...

I slime all the tires, studded or bolted... I would not put chains on any quad, except for plowing with our 300 ( which I have never had to put chains on yet ), but I don't like to putt around, on my 750 Prairie ...

 

XC800 - Interesting Question. Thanks for asking it. By the way, what's an "Alltoys Stage 1 Kit"? I don't even know what it is and I Want One Already!

newbeatle - Thanks for the detailed response - Looks like the OEM Dunlops are going to be good for something after all!

Jeff

 

Newbeatle:

I will not be racing, unless it is to be the first in the hot tub.! How well do screws hold out as compared to through bolt?

Will I have to replace them daily?. I have heard that through bolting then taking the tires to a auto glass store to have the insides urathaned is the way to go.

My dealer ordered me a set of "***** Burger " tire. What ever they are. They are the exact same size as the stock V rears 10x21.



Prairie700:

The Alltoys stage one kit consists of machined primary clutch faces. It changes the profile so when accelerating, the pull is more linear vs the quick out of the hole and then drop off the stock faces give you. The back side of the inside sheave is milled down. Every second fin is shaved off giving less rotating mass. As long as you are not riding in 95 degree heat all day, cooling won't be an issue. The stock needles have a very slight taper then go blunt at the tip. This matches the stock sheaves.
The Alltoys Stage One kit includes machining down the needles to a sharper point and also gives then a slender profile which is linear as well. Finally, the clutch face is opened up, similar to the Dalton style but there are a few more grams taken off.


All the above works well when you combine dual pipes, dual intakes and a K&N along with the Dalton adjustable levers and a much beefier HPD plain spring.

I got this baby flying just before the cool weather came so now I want to run the bike in the winter as well.

 

"The Alltoys stage one kit consists of machined primary clutch faces..."

Hmmm, Does a similar kit exist for the P650/700?

 

i believe for your machine turf tamers are great and cheap they are also easy to stud iv'e used 5/16x1/2'' sheet metal screws on my dirt bike in past and traction is unbelivable like riding on the street you will need at lest a 1000 screws or so depending on how much traction you want

 

Sooooo.

I picked up a set of Wolly Booger copies for about 50 bucks each, Exact size as the stock hole shots. I bought a box of 1000 ice screws, They have 1/4" hex heads which have 3/8" long heads that stick out of the lug, The heads have a chizeled head, sort of concave and are quite sharp. I was going to use hex head machine screws from a nut/bolt house but these bad boys look awesome for hook up.

I will post the results after the tires get all screwed up!

 

They make tires just for ice. They look like the old knoby tires on the first 3-wheelers but they have a harder compound rubber. Denis Kirk has ice screws for the tires. Get the ones with the corsest threads you can find. They stay in 100X better than finer thread screws or sheet metal screws.

 

I haven't tried the tires yet, one of them came distorted, so I held back on the screwing.I am swapping it today. The screws I got have very course threads. The tires Wolly Boogers, have nice 5/8" lugs that go in a V pattern. I plan on using the quad for ice and snow so I want more than just ice tires. I took the boogers for a rip last nite with no screws. Hooks up really well in the 1 foot of snow we have. The sled trails are already packed down to hard pack/ frozen dirt so the screws will help out there.