Yowee, good luck getting it set up right. I'm sure once you get that baby enough fuel, you'll appreciate the cdi!

 

WHAT the new CDI isn't magic, I can't belive it. For three years you been waiting for the" Magic Box" and it didn't double the HP.[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif[/img]

 

LOL..n1 mickyD

 

M.D. ...LOL...

ALLTOY's posted this challenge on High Lifter...

"I dare anyone with a stock OEM cdi, key and module of any brand to hold and sustain an rpm of 8500." ...

This was my response...

"ALLTOYS... I accept your challenge...LOL... "I dare anyone with a stock OEM cdi, key and module of any brand to hold and sustain an rpm of 8500." ... I currently don't even have a timing key installed, & can run 8400 rpm all day ... I'm sure that if I had the key & no module ( I currently run a DGR Holeshot, just because it's there ), that hitting the stock rev limit would be no problem ( with the help of the bbk, cams & other assorted mods )... so, I'll assume you meant "stock"...

IMO, most machines without internal mods, will not reap the full benifits of the CDI... ( although it was nice of the manufacterer to build them in for guy's like me )... I think this is appearent by the marginal increases in timed runs over conventional modules, in tests performed by MIKEYBOY & other forum members... & it seems like there is no magic fix to these things... it requires several ( fixes )... ( both cams & ignition ) to really gain anything more than marginal gains...

I will be doing some tests for Don, with the DG-3 on my modded motor, so that he can get some results of his product on a motor with extensive "internal" mods... I'd expect that the DG-3 will be more than enough to push my quad to the hard rev limit, which Don told me was 8600 rpm on the '02 model, rather than 8500 rpm on the '03 & '04 models ??? we shall see... The DG-3 ( with a degree key ), IMO, will provide nearly identical results as "the" CDI, on an "internally" stock motor, but for those of us, that have "opened" up the big V Twin, & inserted improved parts, you'll likely need the CDI, to get optimum performance...

As far as the top end timing issues... you guy's are correct, "the" key will, & will not help on the top end... It won't stop the stock CDI from retarding, but it will keep the timing from dropping to an unuseable level... on quads with no "internal" mods, this will likely equal the performance of the CDI, as you will not have the cams to really use this additional timing ( you'll be out of your power band )... so for the forum members that are willing to wrench a little, to save a buck, & aren't ready to drop the $$$ for cams yet, the degree key, & a module may be your most cost effective "mouse trap"... but to the guy's that want the real deal... you'll need cams & realistically head work, to make full use of the CDI... "

If you can't see what I'm getting at here, it's going to take more than "external" mods to reap full potential from the raised rev limit, & or the increased top end timing... if I can easily run 8400 rpm, with the stock CDI's retarded timing, imagine what kind of benifits that any of the FST equiped Prairies will get out of the increased timing... the stock cams are fully out of their element, long before the Dyna CDI's full benifits are reached... if you have not done anything to the heads to increase the flow efficiency, or the intake or exhaust, you'll likey be better off buying a used bottom end module for $50.00, than anything else...

 

New beatle, thats some well written nonsense! [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img] I have an internally stock prairie and the gains from the CDI are awesome, and well worth the $ to me and many others. Just because we dont have port, head, or cam work done, and may not get AS MUCH gain from the CDI as you, we get a LOT. The modules are a pain to install, and the cdi is plug n play. You want to act like you and your ultra advanced and modded prairie are the only one that truly can embrace the benefits of the cdi, and thats simply not true, sorry. I think while a good effort, the timed runs done my mikeyboy are nothing to go by. There are way too many factors there at play, his particular mods and tuning, variances between runs, etc. The main point from his testing I took away is it gave solid gains over the modules, and more importantly, over a stock cdi. I waited for this box for so long and am happy with it. I think the modules are BS and would never recommend them to anyone.

 

Howdy,
I think you are being a little rash with your statements about newbeatles mods not being all that effective. I also think that the module will do exactly what they are advertised to do. The difficult hook up of the modules is all of soldering 3 connections. If that is too difficult for you , you can probably get someone to help you with the task. My new DG3 will do all that I need and I did manage all that soldering with no help. Well, have a goodun!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11

 

My experience: '02 650 Prairie.....previous only mod: K&N Filter....Installed the Dynatek and from I learned here after installation I would need to have needles shimmed 30 K, air fuel misture adjusted. really rips now and am happy with it.....when I went to pick it up I asked my dealer owner if he wanted to put it up against a 700P.....answered "no, I know what you got" at least for titles anyhow. Really increased perf. all across the band and I am happy with it..... no further mods intended, staying with stocker tires. Whoever said that other mods done makes the Dyna a lot more critical in adjusting I believe is right, happy with what I got............tersha

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'00 Merc Mountaineer (mine) 5.0 eng.
'03 Pont. Coupe Grand AM GT

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re-read my post, nobody said his mods weren't effective. I simply said you didn't NEED all those mods to recognize worthwhile benefits from the CDI...

 

Hey Lightman, I also have an 03, put in dyna this weekend and need to rejet, as I,m too lean. Have new snorkle and k&n on the way, and will mod the exhaust. Can you tell us exactly how your Prarie is set up, so we can get equal results?? Thanks in advance.[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]

 

Why LIGHTMAN... that was almost adversarial ??? My post was certainly not ment to be that adversarial... only to explain some of the reasons that the starter of this thread ( TIMO ), could have been disapointed... you stated... "You want to act like you and your ultra advanced and modded prairie are the only one that truly can embrace the benefits of the cdi,"... I don't currently own a "new" CDI ( but will purchase one soon )... My quad looks like something that came out of Monster Garage, or Junk Yard Wars, rather than "ultra advanced and modded", ... & I believe I stated that you "would not reap the full benifits of the CDI" ... I'm fully aware that it is an improvement over the stock one... I'd just will be willing to bet that there will be some disapointed Prairie owners out there, that have invested in the new CDI, fully expecting it to be "the bomb", only to find them selves getting beaten, by someone with less money, but the mechanical knowledge to install a flywheel key & slip on a module... I know the CDI's performance is awesome, when compared to the stock CDI, just as the original bottom end modules performance was awesome, when compared to the stock CDI... I'm glad the CDI is performing as you expected it to, & that it was a good value to you... I hope your day gets better... sorry if I offended you...