After countless tire pressure adjustments,toe end combo's,and balancing......I went to the Arctic Cat dealer and bought a couple Badlands front tires, took the handle bar shaking front Holeshot ATR's off and the front end shimmy is all but gone. toe is about 1/8 th inch toe in.......and they are night and day different from the Atr's....I can actually ride on pavement or hardpack now.......Now I know that ITP and Carlisle are the same company so to speak, but I will say that the plant that makes the ATR's have some definite quality control issue's that the Badlands plant doesn't have.....I don't think I will be buying any more ATR's front or rear, the ATR rear's are still on the bike as I have no problem with them, But the Badlands are in my opinion the better tire........

 

I think you made a good choice. I also have ATRs and I think the Badlands are a better tire. I just cant afford to switch tires at this time but if I could I would just buy the fronts. Im saving money for the 765 kit.

 

ITP tires have balance and uniformity problems in general.

 

after the problem with the Dirt Devils, i'm thinking of going to the blackwater XT's . they are 27 " do you foks think I will have a clearence problem?????????

 

Were the Badlands heavier than the holeshot atrs? I am very interested in the Badlands but worry they may be heavier and loose performance.
Tonto

 

They actually feel lighter than the Holeshots. but I didn't weigh them.......

 

The Badlands XTR's are actually lighter by about 1-2 pounds per tire!!!

 

STAKK,

Thanks for the report, I'm going to try the same set-up myself now.

Chris

 

That sounds great I ordered a set for my Brute Force today, will let you know how they work
Tonto

 

Stakk, are you willing to donate the old ATRs to the poor? I have a tire charity that I send old tires to (not me silly). I will pay shipping.