360 update
#1
Hey Guys---lotsa new names on this forum since I started about a year ago--just want to give an update and let everyone know that 360 praires still rule!!! I went to a local run a couple of weeks ago "BlueKnob" and hooked up with a dealer who put 4 mudlites on for me for $250.00 including tax. The bike rides a lot better with improved handling--steers easier and does not feel like it is going to roll over anymore on a hard turn. Only bad thing is I really enjoyed burnouts in the grass and stones with the old worn Dunflops and there is way to much traction now--Looks like I need to fine tune it again--Hopefully someone will make a big bore kit with higher compression for us--I think the drivetrain is plenty strong enough to take a little more torque. I have been running all summer (2800 miles on it now) with a disconnected KEBC and my homemade manual 4-wheel drive actuator--works perfectly--I could have sold a dozen of these at the run I went to---I am in the process of experimenting with a manual 4 wheel actuator that I will build myself and hopefully make available to the readers on this forum and the other Kaw forum I frequent--It gives me a lot more confidence when approaching suicide hill to know my 4 whell drive is working and that it is locked in. I also do not miss at all the KEBC--I like the idea that I can now freewheel it in certain circumstances now and have not had any trouble going down steep hills, even in high range a slight bump of the throttle gives you engine braking. With the KEBC disconnected my bike also does not creep or pull at idle, and the belt no longer squeeks at idle--I removed my shims at about 250 mikes and also installed the black secondary spring, I am still on the original belt and it is working great. Keep up the great posts and if I can help anybody, dont hesitate to ask.
#3
Ole Man Moses,
I had been waiting for you to provide an update to your "fix" for rough starting and idling 360's. You had identified the problem as "the reall problem is the compression release for the pull start that is on the camshaft" and had developed a fix to not only prevent that but provide more power. Sounded like a win win to me but I am a dufus mechanically and thought I would wait until I heard further before attempting modifications. It is not often something can be done that is "win, win" (more power and better performance). Has this mod proven out?
My 360 has been a dream for the most part (use it a lot for hauling out saw logs) but I learned long ago to not start it until I was ready to go. If a group of us is heading out somewhere the others will start up their machines and let them warm up while getting ready to go. I don't start my machine until we leave (otherwise it will stall) and don't push for the first little while and then it performs well.
As to tires for the 360 ..... I have been thinking on this as well. Don't want to lose speed etc. but a little more traction would be good. I have chains for heavy loads over the ice and rough trails but they are a bit of a hassle putting them on and taking them off --- although they are the very definition of traction.
Since you just got the stock size mudlites I presume your speed has not suffered? I had been thinking about slightly bigger tires but then I might have to also buy diferent chains (for the really rough going but with better tires maybe have to use the chains less anyway). If the stability and traction can be improved that much with the same size tire that also sounds like a win win situation. Better traction, increased stability, no loss in speed, not any harder on the machine.
Had you considered other types of tires or just stumbled into the deal on the Mudlites? I ask only because my tire selection choices might not be as good here.
Thanks in advance for any response.
I had been waiting for you to provide an update to your "fix" for rough starting and idling 360's. You had identified the problem as "the reall problem is the compression release for the pull start that is on the camshaft" and had developed a fix to not only prevent that but provide more power. Sounded like a win win to me but I am a dufus mechanically and thought I would wait until I heard further before attempting modifications. It is not often something can be done that is "win, win" (more power and better performance). Has this mod proven out?
My 360 has been a dream for the most part (use it a lot for hauling out saw logs) but I learned long ago to not start it until I was ready to go. If a group of us is heading out somewhere the others will start up their machines and let them warm up while getting ready to go. I don't start my machine until we leave (otherwise it will stall) and don't push for the first little while and then it performs well.
As to tires for the 360 ..... I have been thinking on this as well. Don't want to lose speed etc. but a little more traction would be good. I have chains for heavy loads over the ice and rough trails but they are a bit of a hassle putting them on and taking them off --- although they are the very definition of traction.
Since you just got the stock size mudlites I presume your speed has not suffered? I had been thinking about slightly bigger tires but then I might have to also buy diferent chains (for the really rough going but with better tires maybe have to use the chains less anyway). If the stability and traction can be improved that much with the same size tire that also sounds like a win win situation. Better traction, increased stability, no loss in speed, not any harder on the machine.
Had you considered other types of tires or just stumbled into the deal on the Mudlites? I ask only because my tire selection choices might not be as good here.
Thanks in advance for any response.
#4
Originally posted by: Tangier
Ole Man Moses,
I had been waiting for you to provide an update to your "fix" for rough starting and idling 360's. You had identified the problem as "the reall problem is the compression release for the pull start that is on the camshaft" and had developed a fix to not only prevent that but provide more power. Sounded like a win win to me but I am a dufus mechanically and thought I would wait until I heard further before attempting modifications. It is not often something can be done that is "win, win" (more power and better performance). Has this mod proven out?
My 360 has been a dream for the most part (use it a lot for hauling out saw logs) but I learned long ago to not start it until I was ready to go. If a group of us is heading out somewhere the others will start up their machines and let them warm up while getting ready to go. I don't start my machine until we leave (otherwise it will stall) and don't push for the first little while and then it performs well.
As to tires for the 360 ..... I have been thinking on this as well. Don't want to lose speed etc. but a little more traction would be good. I have chains for heavy loads over the ice and rough trails but they are a bit of a hassle putting them on and taking them off --- although they are the very definition of traction.
Since you just got the stock size mudlites I presume your speed has not suffered? I had been thinking about slightly bigger tires but then I might have to also buy diferent chains (for the really rough going but with better tires maybe have to use the chains less anyway). If the stability and traction can be improved that much with the same size tire that also sounds like a win win situation. Better traction, increased stability, no loss in speed, not any harder on the machine.
Had you considered other types of tires or just stumbled into the deal on the Mudlites? I ask only because my tire selection choices might not be as good here.
Thanks in advance for any response.
Ole Man Moses,
I had been waiting for you to provide an update to your "fix" for rough starting and idling 360's. You had identified the problem as "the reall problem is the compression release for the pull start that is on the camshaft" and had developed a fix to not only prevent that but provide more power. Sounded like a win win to me but I am a dufus mechanically and thought I would wait until I heard further before attempting modifications. It is not often something can be done that is "win, win" (more power and better performance). Has this mod proven out?
My 360 has been a dream for the most part (use it a lot for hauling out saw logs) but I learned long ago to not start it until I was ready to go. If a group of us is heading out somewhere the others will start up their machines and let them warm up while getting ready to go. I don't start my machine until we leave (otherwise it will stall) and don't push for the first little while and then it performs well.
As to tires for the 360 ..... I have been thinking on this as well. Don't want to lose speed etc. but a little more traction would be good. I have chains for heavy loads over the ice and rough trails but they are a bit of a hassle putting them on and taking them off --- although they are the very definition of traction.
Since you just got the stock size mudlites I presume your speed has not suffered? I had been thinking about slightly bigger tires but then I might have to also buy diferent chains (for the really rough going but with better tires maybe have to use the chains less anyway). If the stability and traction can be improved that much with the same size tire that also sounds like a win win situation. Better traction, increased stability, no loss in speed, not any harder on the machine.
Had you considered other types of tires or just stumbled into the deal on the Mudlites? I ask only because my tire selection choices might not be as good here.
Thanks in advance for any response.
Deffinetyl pick up some new tires, you'll be happy you did.. I'm running 25" Kenda Bearclaws, work very very well & never had a pucnture or leak, & I ride some rough rocks.. I almost went with Mudlites but have been concerned about some reports that they dont have very strong sidewalls, Bearclaws have kept
me happy
#5
Thanks Uinthas.
I have been thinking about tires for quite some time and the more I research it the more I understand that I have to change from the stock tires but the more I am uncertain about Mudlites or Bear Claws. I am most concerned about reliability --- don't want to be in the middle of nowhere on a cold wet night and poke a hole in my sidewall.
That being said either tire would be a huge improvement over what I now have. The tire guy at the shop recomends the Claws and have heard some good opinions about them --- including now from you.
Here is a discussion I started and am carefully monitoring about the tires on a Cdn. site.
http://www.atvcanada.ca/forum/showfl...0/page/0#22498
Sorry it is not clickabile as I don't know how to do that but you should be able to copy and paste.
I am interested in the black secodary spring. Does it indeed increase power and performance, how much does it cost, where do you get it and lastly ......how dificult is it to install? Is the instalation directions in Nyrocks site (Tech tips) or anywhere else?
I know to many questions. Thanks for any and all response.
I have been thinking about tires for quite some time and the more I research it the more I understand that I have to change from the stock tires but the more I am uncertain about Mudlites or Bear Claws. I am most concerned about reliability --- don't want to be in the middle of nowhere on a cold wet night and poke a hole in my sidewall.
That being said either tire would be a huge improvement over what I now have. The tire guy at the shop recomends the Claws and have heard some good opinions about them --- including now from you.
Here is a discussion I started and am carefully monitoring about the tires on a Cdn. site.
http://www.atvcanada.ca/forum/showfl...0/page/0#22498
Sorry it is not clickabile as I don't know how to do that but you should be able to copy and paste.
I am interested in the black secodary spring. Does it indeed increase power and performance, how much does it cost, where do you get it and lastly ......how dificult is it to install? Is the instalation directions in Nyrocks site (Tech tips) or anywhere else?
I know to many questions. Thanks for any and all response.
#6
Black spring increases acceleration, you'll certainly notice a differnce especailly if you ride with it for several months & then put the stock back on, very nice
improvement & the best mod I have done to mine.. The instructions are on Nyroc's site for the install, how hard it is depends on how mechanical you are, you certainly dont need to be a cert. mechanic to do this job, but basic skills is a must, also get a good circlip tool. you can find the spring Here
improvement & the best mod I have done to mine.. The instructions are on Nyroc's site for the install, how hard it is depends on how mechanical you are, you certainly dont need to be a cert. mechanic to do this job, but basic skills is a must, also get a good circlip tool. you can find the spring Here
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