this is dissapointing kawi was telling eveyone that they kept the weight down to 350. Go look on there web site it says the dry weight is 364. I still want one though.
DOES REVERSE REALLY ADD THAT MUCH WIEGHT????
DOES REVERSE REALLY ADD THAT MUCH WIEGHT????
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I don't know if the reverse alone would make up the difference, so there could be other things too. But 364 is not too shabby and that little extra weight would probably only make a difference at the highest level of competition.
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You know, 14 punds doesnt matter that much...you could be racing guys that weigh 50 pound more than you that are on the lighter 450's..even though the yfz still has them all beat. lol [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]
O yeah kid. dont come on here flaming. stay in the yamaha forum.
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Take into account the heavy duty reinforced wheels, and handlebar mounted reverse. I know they don't add a ton of weight, but it all adds up.
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It gained weight but also lost 2" in width. The original specs put it around 345 lbs and 48" wide. It is now 364 lbs and 46" wide. I thought that was the idea of the all alluminam frame was to keep it under 350 lbs. And why did they go back to 46" wide?
But it still looks to add a lot of competition to the already very competitive 450 class.
But it still looks to add a lot of competition to the already very competitive 450 class.
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Aluminum frames are specifically made for machines for less weight, they are more rigid than steel, in other words they handle better.[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/img]
And as far as the 14 pound addition, that really won't make a difference. It's about how heavy or light a machine "feel" Some MX bikes that are heavier than others, "feel" lighter and you would never think for a second they were actually heavier on a scale without reading the specs. Rotating mass and balance of a machine is what makes them feel the way they do.
And as far as the 14 pound addition, that really won't make a difference. It's about how heavy or light a machine "feel" Some MX bikes that are heavier than others, "feel" lighter and you would never think for a second they were actually heavier on a scale without reading the specs. Rotating mass and balance of a machine is what makes them feel the way they do.
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Originally posted by: Evasiveone
It gained weight but also lost 2" in width. The original specs put it around 345 lbs and 48" wide. It is now 364 lbs and 46" wide. I thought that was the idea of the all alluminam frame was to keep it under 350 lbs. And why did they go back to 46" wide?
But it still looks to add a lot of competition to the already very competitive 450 class.
It's interesting, you point out how they moved it back to 46" from 48' ....... I wonder if they did this because they wanted to appeal more in the middle of the trail riders and the racers ...... Originally posted by: Evasiveone
It gained weight but also lost 2" in width. The original specs put it around 345 lbs and 48" wide. It is now 364 lbs and 46" wide. I thought that was the idea of the all alluminam frame was to keep it under 350 lbs. And why did they go back to 46" wide?
But it still looks to add a lot of competition to the already very competitive 450 class.
They don't have a 400cc machine like Suzuki, there is only the one choice, Suzuki has one for track (LTZ450) and trail (z400). So the MX guys will have to buy after market A-arms and suspension, but the XC guys won't have to buy shorter A-arms (like the LTZ450 guys do) ..... and the trail riders don't have to worry about being too wide for the trees....
I think it was probably a smart thing to keep it around 46", because with the reverse it is going to be very popular with the XC racers and trail riders...... The MX guys always mod to the hills anyway so I doubt the width will scare any of them away......
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Isn't that about the same weight as the 450ER? That wouldn't bother me at all. I just wonder had durable that aluminum frame will be. I mean, I took out both left side A-arms when I hit a tree a while back on the 700R. I had to replace them ofcourse but it didn't tweek the frame at all. I wonder how well an aluminum frame would've took an impact like that?
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How do you guys think this the 450 will compare to the Raptor 700 for power? All I know if that the Kawasaki 450 dirt bike engine has tons of power, I'm hoping they keep it that way for the KFX. I can't wait for a ride review!