why cant you put a cvt quad on a dyno and get accurate numbers?
#1
I was just wandering why you had to measure at the crank for cvt quads instead of measuring at the wheels?
I suppose the numbers would be weird and have a strange curve to them, but would it maybe show as much more power because of the changing gear ratios and stuff like that?
I suppose the numbers would be weird and have a strange curve to them, but would it maybe show as much more power because of the changing gear ratios and stuff like that?
#2
i just thought some of you would know b/c a lot of you have kfx700s, maybe i should ask the polaris forum how they do this with their scramblers and trailblazers if i dont get a reply here.
#3
I don't know why you couldn't. They do it with sleds all the time with a special dyno you can run a track on, just gives you an idea of how much power you're getting to the ground. I guess if you're doing a benchmark against other machines you might want to run them all off the crank to get representative numbers.
#5
I've just read about it on Snowest and in magazines. As for how much gets to the ground I can't say, never tried it with mine. I would think it would be more than 1/4 though.
#6
Unlike a manual quad that is locked in a certain gear closest to a 1:1 ratio, the CVT quads shift the whole time they are on they dyno so you can't get an accurate reading at the rear wheels.
#7
so if the cvt constantly adjusts and shows higher numbers than reality..... why dont quads with gears do that too?? shifting for the highest numbers, then you can have a virtual drag which shows which quads would win if there was no wind resistance
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#8
CVT quads on a rear wheel are not a true hp rating for the motor. It is only a tuning tool. There are to many variables with a rear wheel that can change hp rating. Springs, weights, machining of clutchs, washers between springs, worn belt, 25% to 30% loss of power through a CVT, tire slippage, tire inflation, tire compound, disc brakes grabbing, different size wheels/tires. Possiblilities are endless. It is much easier to see a 1 or 2 hp difference on a motor dyno than trying to see it on wheel with a cvt. 1 or 2 hp difference on a wheel dyno could mean 2 to 3 hp on a motor dyno.
Once you have the motor tuned to its maximum you will know with out a dought at what rpm you will have maximum hp then you can tune you clutch appropriatly.
Most sled guys use a motor dyno first get the motor at its max then take the sled to a timed light system. Mark out 500 or 600 feet then tune the clutch.
Once you have the motor tuned to its maximum you will know with out a dought at what rpm you will have maximum hp then you can tune you clutch appropriatly.
Most sled guys use a motor dyno first get the motor at its max then take the sled to a timed light system. Mark out 500 or 600 feet then tune the clutch.
#9
Here is one that supposedly does. Then can tune the drive line also, see how clutch is shifting etc.
http://www.land-and-sea.com/motorcyc...cycle-dyno.htm
http://www.land-and-sea.com/motorcyc...cycle-dyno.htm
#10
I believe you can get a fairly accurate reading from the dyno.. What's the difference your CLUTCH slipping and spinning on a dyno versus real world riding (chances are it will do the same action in the real world). Now I do have a well modified KFX700 with FULL Dalton clutch compents..So I know it's biting hard.... Dyno read 54hp to the tires, 94mph @ 10,200 rpm.


