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Old 01-02-2008 | 08:40 PM
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Sure you dont want to sell the lakota and add $500 to it and get a 400 with bigger tires??? Might be cheaper in the long run.

If you're dead set on a 335 kit, why do you need to check compression? IF you do check it, make sure you take the air filter off and open the throttle and slide all the way up. (Really would be best to take the carb off, but....). I think someone told me on here its supposed to have 119psi min.

Even a 335 is not going to keep up with a 400, unless something is wrong with the 400 (or the driver of the 400).

Top end gasket set should be about $30. THe manual is closer to $30 as well. And you'll need a flatslide carb too, another $150. Plus hrs trying to get it jetted. CV carbs dont give the throttle response you are looking for. And they are too sensitive to engine mods and a pain in the rear to jet after a mod.
 
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Old 01-02-2008 | 08:45 PM
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And I was thinking about the one ride I got to take before I tore it down. I could burn the tires off in 3rd gear from a stand still, but couldn't pull the front end up more than a foot or so and even then I was jerking my arms off. The guy I bought it from told me it was not one to come up on the back wheels easy. Its a good hill climber. So, dont base everything on not being able to stand it up. Btw, my compression was 130 I think. My bayou was 190 and my quadsport was 200+ that same day (I have high comp setups in both those).
 
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Old 01-02-2008 | 08:59 PM
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I can barely go in second from a standstill never mind third. They are hard to pull up, but once you learn how it's easier. I used to be able to wheelie a good 100+ feet but now my clutch is wearing out. I want to do a compression check to see if a worn piston/sleeve is my problem. I dont have the funds for a 335 so I'm just gonna get an overbore w/high comp piston probably.
 
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Old 01-02-2008 | 09:39 PM
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That sounds reasonable... How does your spark plug look??? Check the tire valve in the your compression checker.... It may be stuck open. I had to replace mine, so I stuck a valve from a car tire in the "pressure release" valve spot and put the pressure release valve in the end of the hose where the bad valve used to be. Works now, but next time I'll have to run to the store for a new valve.
 
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Old 01-02-2008 | 10:23 PM
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Hmm, all the extra power your new parts may be getting tempered by a slipping clutch then. If you can borrow a compression tester from somewhere I still think it would be beneficial to know how to plan your rebuild.
 
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Old 01-03-2008 | 07:33 PM
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It just rescently started slipping, and the engine doesnt sound/feel any better than it did to begin with.
 
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Old 01-03-2008 | 09:44 PM
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a new battery = nothing for performance

dynojet kit = nothing for performance unless you had a problem to start with (ie. running bad because of intake or exahust work)

twinair filter = only flows slightly more air than stock - KN would have been a much better choice.

modded intake = not sure what this means???

maier hood for more airflow = again, not sure what this means???

new spark plug = nothing for performance

supertrapp ids2 exhaust = Once you tune the exhaust and tune the carb, this should give a big power boost.

new sprockets/chain = Same size as stock??? Either way, doesn't add power to the engine.

spacers = nothing for performance, if anything that's just extra weight to rob power.

douglas .190's and razr 2's = lighter than stock steel rims and you should feel little something extra when you give the throttle a quick punch... well,,, oh yeah, I forgot, you have the silly CV carb, so,,, nope, you wont feel anything.


Here's what the list could/should have looked like:

Airbox in garbage, replaced with KN filter and new box built around it to keep mud from splashing directly on the filter.

32mm flatslide mikuni carb.

supertrapp ids2 exhaust.

Ported n polished head with fresh valve job.

High compression piston and/or milled head and piston deacked.

Douglas .160 rims, offset, with ITP tracstars (lightest tires around paired with light, but strong rims)

No spacers unless offset rims where not enough.


Then if you had no power you'd have something to complain about. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]
 
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Old 01-04-2008 | 10:06 PM
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I dont have a ton of money to buy a new carb and get a ton of engine work done, trust me, if i did it would have been done months ago. The snorkel on the lakota comes in back of the headlight, and with the maier screened hood air goes straight into the snorkel. When paired with an air filter and exhaust, the jet kit helps, and it was running like crap, that's why I got the jet kit. I would never buy tracstars seeing I run all mud and trails. The only reason I got the spacers is because the razor 2's were rubbing the batter box badly, and because it handles better when a bit wider. It's not easy to find many aluminum rims for 4/156 hubs. You dont seem to get the point. I am trying to get this thing running good on a budget, and i ride all trails, I'm not going for a rich man's racer. If I was going for that I would have bought a 450.
 
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Old 01-05-2008 | 04:02 AM
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LOL, OK... You said you wanted to put less than $500 into it. KN=$40, carb=$150, High comp piston=$100, bore job n gaskets=$150. Total=$440 or so. You can lap the valves and polish the ports yourself for free. You might even be able to port it out yourself if you do a little research on the net.

TracStars are good in the mud. One of the biggest selling points is the wide spaced lugs that clear out easy. And they are radials for a nice trail ride. 6ply for toughness. Hard tire to beat. The razr2's are a really heavy tire from what I've read about them in the reviews. 5 lbs more per tire than the tracstars (comparing specs from manufacturers websites). But I'm not one to talk because I got the kenda klaws for my quadsport, and they weigh 3 lbs more per tire. I was strictly looking for sliding ability though.... Nothing else. And tracstars are pretty expensive. I still might get them for the lakota though... We're still trying to decide if $100 is worth 12 lbs in tire weight.

You were the one that said you didn't understand why your quad didnt have the power you think it should have based on what others have done. I was just telling you why.

And that snorkle thingy you're on about... The only way you'll get any more air flow from the stock "maze" of air boxes they have is to mount a leaf blower to the snorkle and run around the yard with a really long extension cord. [img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/img]

When I did the burnout in 3rd gear I didnt tell you I used the carb from my quadsport. Its tuned for a KN filter. When I put it on the lakota I didn't use any air filter at all. The whole time the quad smoked like a tar wagon from burning oil, but it had a decent amount of power. I guess that is the difference in a 28mm carb with no filter and a 32mm cv carb with a maze of airboxes. ... and another thing to consider is I have a burnt primary clutch,,,, at least I think I do. I have to rev it out to 2000 or 3000 before it even starts to move. I dont know if that's normal for a lakota, but my guess is that its not. Almost like a high stall torque convertor in a car. Anyway, just a regular (non-cv) carb and a KN filter and you'd be impressed... Even w/o the high comp piston. I got the 32mm mikuni roundslide for mine (to save $50 over the flatslide). The bored jug and piston should be in next week. I have to look at the head n ports again to see if its worth spending any time on or just calling it "good enough". I'm definitely leaving the base gasket out,,, that's an easy boost to compression w/o doing anything.
 
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Old 01-06-2008 | 09:12 PM
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The high comp piston is 140, I need a full gasket set top and bottom which is 75 and I have seen porting on tv and have done it to a smaller engine so I may be able to do that. I would like to get another carb, but I dont have much experience with jetting, and I dont think I could get it running right to save my life. I have swapped needle jets, and put the e-ring on to the specs in the dynojet manual and know how to lean/richen with the main jets but dont think I could get them all right in unison. Now I ride it alot and am thinking though, I may just get new clutch plates and a couple gaskets and run it till it's dead. It needs alot of work, and I'm not sure I want to spend that much when the resale value wouldnt be 1/2 what I put into it.
 


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