Kawasaki 750 Brute Force OR Yamaha Grizzly 700 FI EPS
#11
If power is your thing I would just get a Can-Am as they blow them all away even the Can-Am 650 has more power than the Brute 750. If you want quality I would NOT look at neither! The only people who complain about power Steering are the ones who dont have it. Kinda like beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
#12
Here is a updated HP list
Arctic Cat Mud Pro 950__65.8hp
Sportsman 850 EFI______69.1hp
Can-Am Outlander 800___71.0 hp
Sportsman 800_________50.1 hp
Kawasaki BF750EFI______49.8hp
Kawasaki BF750 Carb____50.1 hp
Suzuki KQ700___________48.5 hp
Yamaha Grizzly 700______45.6 hp
Sportsman 700_________44.3 hp
AC 700________________41.4 hp
Honda Rincon 680_______38.5 hp
Yamaha Grizzly 660______40.9 hp
Can-Am Outlander 650___60.0 hp
Kawasaki BF650_________41.4hp
AC 650 H1_____________39.3 hp
Yamaha Grizzly 550______36.9hp
Sportsman 550__________40.2hp
Suzuki KQ 500__________38.2
Can Am Outlander 500____40.4 hp
Suzuki KQ450__________36.7 hp
Sportsman 500 EFI______36.0hp
Sportsman 500 HO______34.5hp
Honda Rubicon 500______33.4hp
Aritc Cat 550___________35.0hp
Arctic Cat 500__________32.0hp
Honda Foreman 500 _____26.9hp
Yamaha Grizzly 450______26.1hp
Sportsman 450__________29.7hp
Honda Rancher 420______27hp
Can-Am Outlander 400___32hp
Polaris Sportsman 400____29.5hp
Suzuki KQ 400___________26.4hp
Yamaha Grizzly 400_______26.0 hp
Yamaha Big Bear 400_____22.9 hp
Aritc Cat 366___________25.7hp
Arctic Cat Mud Pro 950__65.8hp
Sportsman 850 EFI______69.1hp
Can-Am Outlander 800___71.0 hp
Sportsman 800_________50.1 hp
Kawasaki BF750EFI______49.8hp
Kawasaki BF750 Carb____50.1 hp
Suzuki KQ700___________48.5 hp
Yamaha Grizzly 700______45.6 hp
Sportsman 700_________44.3 hp
AC 700________________41.4 hp
Honda Rincon 680_______38.5 hp
Yamaha Grizzly 660______40.9 hp
Can-Am Outlander 650___60.0 hp
Kawasaki BF650_________41.4hp
AC 650 H1_____________39.3 hp
Yamaha Grizzly 550______36.9hp
Sportsman 550__________40.2hp
Suzuki KQ 500__________38.2
Can Am Outlander 500____40.4 hp
Suzuki KQ450__________36.7 hp
Sportsman 500 EFI______36.0hp
Sportsman 500 HO______34.5hp
Honda Rubicon 500______33.4hp
Aritc Cat 550___________35.0hp
Arctic Cat 500__________32.0hp
Honda Foreman 500 _____26.9hp
Yamaha Grizzly 450______26.1hp
Sportsman 450__________29.7hp
Honda Rancher 420______27hp
Can-Am Outlander 400___32hp
Polaris Sportsman 400____29.5hp
Suzuki KQ 400___________26.4hp
Yamaha Grizzly 400_______26.0 hp
Yamaha Big Bear 400_____22.9 hp
Aritc Cat 366___________25.7hp
#13
I should of said if power and Price is your thing get the brute. Can AMs are the most over priced ATV out there. Would not doubt if the 650 Cam AM cost $2500 plus more also without power steering.
Like Can Ams 40hp 500 twin Can Am gets the power in the higher rpm range it still loses in Bottom end torque when slow gunt riding.
There's no replacement for displacement when it comes to torque.
Like Can Ams 40hp 500 twin Can Am gets the power in the higher rpm range it still loses in Bottom end torque when slow gunt riding.
There's no replacement for displacement when it comes to torque.
#14
I should of said if power and Price is your thing get the brute. Can AMs are the most over priced ATV out there. Would not doubt if the 650 Cam AM cost $2500 plus more also without power steering.
Like Can Ams 40hp 500 twin Can Am get the power in the higher rpm range it still loses in Bottom end torque when slow gunt riding.
Like Can Ams 40hp 500 twin Can Am get the power in the higher rpm range it still loses in Bottom end torque when slow gunt riding.
#15
Be sides HP what else does the Can Ams offer? They don,t even have diff lock ,just the slow responding Visco system. That works like this. YouTube - can-am vs. polaris locker
Snowmobiling in is my first sport,and a Can AM sled (Ski-doo) does not cost anymore than any other brand,but they sure think they have special ATVs according to there pricing.
In this 500 shootout the exspensive Can AM comes 3rd. http://www.world-of-atvs.com/4x4-atvs.html besides go fast it does everthing else worst.
Snowmobiling in is my first sport,and a Can AM sled (Ski-doo) does not cost anymore than any other brand,but they sure think they have special ATVs according to there pricing.
In this 500 shootout the exspensive Can AM comes 3rd. http://www.world-of-atvs.com/4x4-atvs.html besides go fast it does everthing else worst.
#16
Can-Am's very upper end atv's do offer air ride suspension and a built in air pump, not that it makes up for the price but it is something.
http://www.atv.com/manufacturers/can...view-1756.html
http://en-us.can-amatv.brp.com/showr...-800R-LTD.aspx
http://www.atv.com/manufacturers/can...view-1756.html
http://en-us.can-amatv.brp.com/showr...-800R-LTD.aspx
#17
i have a hard time believing because brute is a twin that it has more low end, must be the tuning because engines of similar size the one with less cylinders will produce its torque and hp lower. torque overall should be close, but the extra cylinder really just means more hp (higher revs). id rather a single anyday, especially for maintenence
#18
#20
Never ridden a Grizz so I can't comment on it.
I did spend a day on a 2010 750 Brute and I posted this;
http://forums.atvconnection.com/kawa...rce-today.html
The power right off idle is impressive, it's right there right now and all you need.
I did like the little storage places on the fenders and the power was impressive. The instrumentation was nice and I really like having two trip-odometers. This one didn't have EPS and with the stock tires it seemed just fine. Nice racks too.
There's a few things I didn't care for. Lots of engine heat on the legs. I didn't like listening the trans or clutch or what ever it is whining all the time. It likes to push and lean in the corners and seems tippy on off camber but then I'm used to a SRA. I've been told that the Grizz is very tippy on off camber and pushes and leans even more than the Brute Force does. I really didn't care for the key location either.
Overall not a bad ATV IMO, possibly my 4th pick only because I don't know what #3 is.
I did spend a day on a 2010 750 Brute and I posted this;
http://forums.atvconnection.com/kawa...rce-today.html
The power right off idle is impressive, it's right there right now and all you need.
I did like the little storage places on the fenders and the power was impressive. The instrumentation was nice and I really like having two trip-odometers. This one didn't have EPS and with the stock tires it seemed just fine. Nice racks too.
There's a few things I didn't care for. Lots of engine heat on the legs. I didn't like listening the trans or clutch or what ever it is whining all the time. It likes to push and lean in the corners and seems tippy on off camber but then I'm used to a SRA. I've been told that the Grizz is very tippy on off camber and pushes and leans even more than the Brute Force does. I really didn't care for the key location either.
Overall not a bad ATV IMO, possibly my 4th pick only because I don't know what #3 is.