Trying to decide which one to go with, do alot of mud riding, Kawaski Brute Force 750 or can am outlander 800...any ideas?

 

I just went through the same exact decision! - I posted but no one cared enough to answer.

Here's what I found -

I ended up buying the 05 brute 750 twin over the 06 outlander.
It was strange- every can am owner I talked to says they are the best- and then over priced there atv thinking it was made of gold or something (I found beautiful 06 outlander 800's from $4800 - $9000!!!) yet, everyone I talked to who rides with can am atv's say they suck and are prone to getting wet (clutch / belt) when mudding or puddle jumping and are not that reliable.

All I know is, I rode both, and neither of the twin motors (can-am or kawi) pulled as hard or as fast as my single cylinder 05 King Quad 700 fi. And- the front diff lock lever on the kawa is a royal P.I.T.A!!! I liked pushing the button on my Suzuki a lot better! Who want's to hold a lever- to lock a front diff while battling through mud- stupid design!!!

Anyway- I did buy the brute force 750 yesterday- Taking into account $$ for parts replacement is a lot cheaper and the Brute 750 was a bit cheaper, which left money for a plow and??? I'm hitting the trails tonight- I will post an update tomorrow on my thoughts...

 

Neither, unless you want to rebuild your motor every time after you go mudding. Not only that, CV axles breaking, electrical connectors corroding and every parts that rub each other will go bad a lot sooner than if you don't go mudding. Mudding is the worst thing you can do to your ATV. Learn a lesson from mistakes made by OTHER PEOPLE not by yourself. Don't be a loose nut.

 

??? I know guys who go "mudding" many times a month (and have been for years) and none of them have had to rebuild their motors or have snapped axles- and I'm talking new england swampy, rocky, stumpy swamp bogs. It all depends on how you care for your machine and how you ride it- You have just as much opportunity (if not more) destroying your atv riding a dry new england trail (any new englander knows what I'm talking about.)

If you want to ride in mud, you'll need a big bore atv with aggressive tires, a locking front diff, a winch, a lift, another 100' of rope, a snorkel, a water tight front & rear end and motor. and... a friend who won't mind pulling your stuck a$$ out every time you grow a pair of ***** and push the limit.

That being said- mudding does punish a machine, so you may want to consider an ATV that has less expensive replacement parts, which in this case would be the kawasaki.

 

This guy sucked in water into engine and had to couph up $2000 repair bill, because manufacturer said sucking water is not a defect. The only defect was the rider's head.



Rider got stuck in mud, spinning wheels like crazy trying get out. Then suddenly grabbed the traction and the sudden torque broke the CV joint. It looks OK outside but the inside is all messed up.



You don't know what's under the murky water. CV boot gets torn, all the grease comes out, and your CV bearing is gone.


W/O pic is a BS!

 

Didn't say it couldn't brake- but your statement saying you'll have to rebuild your motor after every mud ride is kind of silly- I can also post hundreds of pics of atv's that have gone mudding and have nothing wrong with them... I can also post hundreds of pics of blown motors of atv's that spend all their time in a grassy field... not sure how posting pics of motors that blew while in a mud hole supports your claim. Depends on the rider and the prep. I've been riding for over 20 years- in conditions much harsher then any mud hole, and I've never snapped an axle or threw a rod. Simplly put- an inexperienced rider is what causes most major quad failures, seldom is it the environment or the machine. 7 out of 10 failures I've seen come from the bone-head operating the quad-

You would agree? seeing as your tag is.
"Most quad problems are caused by the loose NUT connecting the handle bar and the seat."

 

wtf kind of response is this? as long as you keep your machine well maintained and use common sense about what you are riding in and how you are riding, your machine should be fine. you need to know the capabilities of your machine

 

any engine that ingested water is not going to fair well if its riden w/ the water in the engine. if you change the oil to get it out a few times you might be able to run it w/ no issues for a long time, but sometimes it only takes once to take out the crank bearing. i've seen a few including a 05' bf 750 that used a little oil but still ran. i've seen a kaw. 400 have a few issues after a water bath(in the engine) but still runs to this day. i agree maintance is everything on a wheeler for sure. oh and i have snap a front cv joint from being stuck and trying to spin my way out under extremly pressure and the toqure of my bike.

 

[quote=Hayashi;2853600]Neither, unless you want to rebuild your motor every time after you go mudding.

I have a 07 brute force and have had it through just about everything! Not a single problem yet. Not saying it won't happen but 450kodman is right. Take care of it and you will be fine. The machine doesn't tear itself up. Its the rider!

 

What kind?
Honest and true, so that other fellow riders don't face expensive repair bills in the future.