well stebob, hair brain of the day award I just recieved.
Flipping the wheels gives a plus two four each wheel, plus four over all for the front end. It is important to note that the wheels have a direction of travel arrow on them so the right has to go on the left and the left goes on the right.
Looks good has a wonderful feel to it, but thier is a catch, the rotor gaurds cut the valve stems off, so the report will come after I fix that.
My intentions are to drill valve stem holes in the rims on the now outside and install valve stems inside but put the inside valve stems in up side down.
I'm going to shoot for just replacing tires not rims, money reasons, hopefully this set up will work if not I'll just try other things.
The youth oneal boots are nice, I had bought my son a pair and they are graet, just buy some huble boot grease and set the boots and grease out in the sun and let them get hot, then apply the grease and let them stay in the sun, this is the best stuff to soften up the leather.
Glad to hier about the 13T sprocket, I'll get back to you later as I have to bring two of my sick kids to the doctor now.

 

Hope the youngins feel better soon!! Too bad about the valve stems (tee hee hee) Do you really want 4"'s in the front though? Holy cow! I bet the handling will be much better, can't wait to see what tires will do. Yeah, that money thing is always an issue, damit.

Where did you get that boot grease? Has your kid had any probs. with the relatively smooth soles, this is my only concern.

 

The boot grease comes from a western boot store, I'm not sure were else to get it. I bought a can 4 years ago and still have some so I haven't been looking.
The oneal boots don't have as smooth of tread as most motocross boots do, actualy it has a pretty good sole. I never hierd of a atv sole until I got my MSR's, and they came in the motocross sole anyway. I have been so use to that sole, I can't tell you any different, but my son has shown no problems as of yet, it's just they are so stiff when you get them thier like a cast or snow ski boots, the braeking them in is the hardest as you don't walk around in them much.

As for the front rims, I don't know what I want, I'm just trying things out. The biggest problem is when you get back on the power at the tighter and lower speed turns, I constantly have to get out of the throtle to get the front wheels back on the ground so I can get some steering done. I loose much time on the track this way, and can't see how any tires could cure this.
So I don't know about the four inches yet, but I'm giving a lot of time to the chasis as I know when I complete the 322 kit it will only make matters worse. I also think I have to change my shock preload, I have it set on the softest setting, now I think I need to start tightening up on the shocks to maybe hold the tires down some while under power, when I first got my lakota the shocks were just way to tight, now I think I may have worn them in to be able to start messing with them.
But on the other hand if I had rear tires that will power slide maybe I would not hook up so hard, I just don't know and as always working on it.
Our race season is still under way but the rain has been giving us fits, so I'm taking this chance to work on some of my problems that I have been finding while on the track and pushing it maybe a little to far. but any how my wallet is sinking and I need so much still, I'm not realy worried about the MX stuff I've been doing but just taking all that I find out on it to get me ready for some XC series coming up, not to mention I still want to make it to the finish at loretta lynns, If I just don't braek everything like my valve stems before I get thier.
Well I'm heading back out to deal with the stems, talk with you after a while.

 

Gaff,

If you are going to race XC, I wouldn't recommend reversing the wheels. 4" is way too much extra width. That would push it out to around 48-49" overall. I would say that maybe +2 (1"each side) would be good. The Lakota really shines in the tight woods of XC racing. Mine turns tighter than any other wheeler out there. If there is a way to mount some low profile valve stems that would clear everything so you could turn them either direction, that would be ok, so you could change them for MX and XC.

 

98,
I 100% agree with you, nothings written in stone here with me, I'm just playing around some and just checking things out. I have the new stems in and have to remont the tires and then I'm going to check it out.
I'm just going to try it out to answer some questions I have and then probably put them back if things don't work out, my main concern would be turning radious and being able to zig zag through the trails.
This will just be a test and just some more info I'll have on the lakota. My calculations will be the widest the front end will be is 47", and yes this is a bit to wide, can I get it to handle good, can I still dart through the trails, these are all answers I can have by tonight, so let me do it and I'll let you all know how it works out, and then I maybe just sticking them back the way they were and be done.

 

Ok here is what it turns out to be!
Front stock: 40 1/2"
Front with tires flipped: 43 1/2"
Rear: 42 3/4"

I got this measurements from taking a level and putting it on the outside of the tires and making a mark on the floor and then measuring the marks, about the best way I could figure it out.

It turns better and tighter than stock, it handles awsome and the front doesn't push nearly at all. I didn't go on any tracks and the woods were full of water, but did fly through a few trails and some fast tite turns in a field, and it's way cool, works graet.
I'm going to leave it like that and next week when I come home I'll realy put it through the test, but so far it's awsome handling[img]i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif[/img]

 

I thought my wheels were stock offset. They measure 42 1/2" now. If I flipped them, it would be about 45-46". I guess you DO learn something new every day. Glad it worked for you Gaff....

 

you do have a little different measurements.
I thought about it a lot last night and went back out to see why it steered so much better, before it had a bad push when ever you touched the gas it would slide the first couple feet. Now the front tires bite hard, and I also noticed I could turn the handle bars all the way now, I never noticed before but I wasn't using the full range of steering, I guess you just get use to the push and just stop using the steering so much at low speeds, and then at high speeds it wouldn't slide to well or you had to know the turf, because getting flung or over shooting the turn was all in the turf you were on.
Now the front end bites in, low or high speeds. Now I'm back at work for 7 days and will have this on my mind untill I get home!!

 

Sounds like you may have gotten 1" offset wheels 98. I like what I'm hearing from you witht his Gaff, very interesting. 98 with the offset you do feel the Lakota handles better? Does it still push?

 

I've never noticed a push in mine. I have 21x7x10 stock 250r tires on the front and 20x11x10 Shredders on the back. Since you guys are running the stock size, this may have something to do with me never noticing a "push". It could also have something to do with the difference in the alignment of our wheelers. Most people say to toe them out about 1/8-1/4". I have mine lined up perfectly straight. I have noticed it handles better this way and the tires wear more evenly.

The wheels were on it when I bought the bike. I'll measure them and let you know the measurements.